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marmar

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Wed Jul 14, 2021, 10:48 AM Jul 2021

Whitmer kidnap suspects don't want jury to hear comments in video [View all]


(Detroit Free Press) A man accused of plotting to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said he wanted to kill cops — "as many of those mother f------ as I can" — prosecutors allege, though the defendant doesn't want jurors to hear any of that.



Neither do his alleged cohorts, who are fighting to keep the jury from hearing those comments, which are part of a video that prosecutors want to show jurors when the case goes to trial in October.

According to the government, the video captures defendant Brandon Caserta expressing frustration with law enforcement and government, and allegedly instructing his “coconspirators" that if they encounter police during a reconnaissance, "they should give the officers one opportunity to leave, and kill them if they did not comply.”

The defense argues that the conversation had nothing to do with the alleged plot to kidnap the governor, but was merely tough talk by an angry citizen venting his frustration over traffic tickets.

The defense argues this video is " irrelevant," "unfairly prejudicial," and "has nothing to do with kidnapping the Governor." .............(more)

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2021/07/14/what-gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-suspects-dont-want-jurors-hear/7954135002/




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Good heavens. Is there a total IQ score of 70 between them? hlthe2b Jul 2021 #1
earlobe hoops...just makes him look nuttier. samnsara Jul 2021 #9
That is so weird looking PatSeg Jul 2021 #23
How about the IQ of the lawyers? Talking about killing cops had nothing to do with the kidnapping Escurumbele Jul 2021 #25
This is a long shot argument LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #44
He probably had gauges in his ears and took them out leftieNanner Jul 2021 #26
Looks like he used to use those ear gauges or whatever they're called. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #50
Not sure, but the over/under on total teeth is 25. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #59
That picture is featured in the journal "Recessive Genetics Quarterly" Effete Snob Jul 2021 #2
. . . zuul Jul 2021 #13
LOL...that IS funny, and believable too. Escurumbele Jul 2021 #27
good one! Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #40
What is it with the high proportion of really badly executed beards? sboatcar Jul 2021 #3
RIGHT !?!? A lot of guys just looks stragly in the face uponit7771 Jul 2021 #6
I mean to each their own sboatcar Jul 2021 #11
+1, somebody should do a pic of Trump just like you outline scars and all uponit7771 Jul 2021 #14
Like the first one, second row. wnylib Jul 2021 #38
Drives My Wife Nuts! ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #52
"...during a reconnaissance..." Of what? The governor? If so hell yes include it uponit7771 Jul 2021 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author sboatcar Jul 2021 #5
inbreds? samnsara Jul 2021 #7
Inbred incestuous incel insurrectionists lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #12
I'm really not sure what kind of language device or triple innuendo this is... Hugin Jul 2021 #18
Circular breeding - they are their own daddies. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #19
There you go again... Hugin Jul 2021 #20
Mandated abortion Traildogbob Jul 2021 #28
Good God in Butter what a group of dead enders Botany Jul 2021 #8
Deplorables Gallery.... Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #42
I don't think they are the University of Michigan's latest class for their med school Botany Jul 2021 #49
Absolutely agree. Hate radio, spawned by the Rushbo model has manifested into this massive division Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #61
In early October 2019 I was crossing the Ohio River.. Botany Jul 2021 #63
You're not rambling. That is the unbelievable truth. Further, same OH families fought for the Union Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #64
You Forgot... ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #53
"no women will date them" Botany Jul 2021 #54
I'm A Liberal! ProfessorGAC Jul 2021 #57
Too bad. Jury definitely needs to hear that. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #10
The gene pool is shallow where they live redstateblues Jul 2021 #15
Reminds my of the song: I got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts LakeArenal Jul 2021 #16
Not exactly GQ material. Makeovers needed for the lot of these terrorists. brush Jul 2021 #17
Why do these fucksticks always look like "The Hills Have Eyes" extras? hatrack Jul 2021 #21
'...if they encounter police during reconnaissance...' Volaris Jul 2021 #22
Holly shit Traildogbob Jul 2021 #24
Defense attorneys always try to get evidence excluded. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #55
Inbreeding started with the Adam and Eve family. Traildogbob Jul 2021 #29
That's a myth. Layzeebeaver Jul 2021 #32
A myth😱😱😩😩😤😤 Traildogbob Jul 2021 #45
Neanderthals live! RainCaster Jul 2021 #30
Insulting to Neanderthals, who actually wnylib Jul 2021 #41
Makes me almost ashamed to be from Michigan Layzeebeaver Jul 2021 #31
Several of them were not from Michigan marmar Jul 2021 #35
I refer to those that were. Layzeebeaver Jul 2021 #36
..."has nothing to do with kidnapping the Governor." SledDriver Jul 2021 #33
What's with his ears??? Grins Jul 2021 #34
TEN of 'em. All ugly white guys. calimary Jul 2021 #37
For all the yelling about how they hate ISIS, they sure love to copy their looks. Crowman2009 Jul 2021 #39
I would argue that their comments are crucial to their motives/ motivation (ie. intent). nt Evolve Dammit Jul 2021 #43
Fucking ridiculous! liberalla Jul 2021 #46
yeah, evidence can really fuck over crimers' defense🤨 bringthePaine Jul 2021 #47
Yeah, a confession can totally fuck up a plea of innocence. 11 Bravo Jul 2021 #60
No wonder they don't believe in evolution. Midnight Writer Jul 2021 #48
Nice Hitler mustache on Doofus # 1. yellowcanine Jul 2021 #51
What a bunch of FREAKS!! TeamProg Jul 2021 #56
Isn't that the official photo of TFG's real cabinet? KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2021 #58
The video goes to state of mind and intent. arthritisR_US Jul 2021 #62
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