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43. Trump controlled the Secret Service

Fri Jul 16, 2021, 03:29 PM

Jul 2021

Now this makes sense. A riot breaks out at the Capitol and Pence is whisked by his detail down to the basement where his limo is waiting to move him to a secure location. Trump didn't intend to have Pence killed but once he was away from the Capitol Trump would have commanded the Secret Service to make sure that Pence did not return to the Capitol which would have prevented the certification of the Electoral votes from being finished.

Now tie in the stand down/delay that was given to the DC National Guard and it all ties together. Trump and his Secretary of Defense had no intention of calling in the Guard to stop the riot. They fully expected Pence to be gone and if Pelosi or Schumer or AOC was caught and subsequently killed well then all the better. This was a planned operation and it is clear why the Republicans do not want anybody looking into the events of January 6th.
As Malcolm Nance says it is very hard to an coincidence.

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On 1/6, Pence Refused To Get In Secret Service Car Because He Didn't Trust Them [View all] babylonsister Jul 2021 OP

WOW. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #1

Hey man, sometimes those spidey senses kick in and you know something's just not right. TheBlackAdder Jul 2021 #80

Wow Johnny2X2X Jul 2021 #2

He is afraid of Trump supporters. madaboutharry Jul 2021 #3

And he fantasizes that he still has a chance to be nominated as the GOP candidate in 2024, tblue37 Jul 2021 #8

Pence is a weakling. madaboutharry Jul 2021 #10

History won't be kind to him exboyfil Jul 2021 #20

Just saw a clip of pence defending FG. This has GOT Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #84

Pence was picked to be V.P. by Putin via Paul Manafort. Botany Jul 2021 #98

And it was Manafort who pushed for Pence, knowing he was a weakling. Lonestarblue Jul 2021 #29

I don't think Pence is weak. Despite all the risks he still did his job in regards to the Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #78

I agree - thank god Pence stayed out of that car & did the job of certifying the election - bluboid Jul 2021 #87

I think that too. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #102

I agree. He showed strength that day. IMO, he believed the vp role compelled him to be subservient. femmedem Jul 2021 #90

He may very well have saved the Republic by doing his job. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #103

Agree 100% Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #92

Biden immediately made changes. SS was likely compromized. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #104

They came to the Capitol for HIM. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2021 #23

Yup. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #93

:) Yes, but why? The RW cabal that includes the GOP has been Hortensis Jul 2021 #27

Don't forget the rw-religeuonazi's need for a.... diverdownjt Jul 2021 #50

Think about the French Revolution... In the end they executed early supporters. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #105

:) Hi, Dems. I do. The Nazis. Many others. Hortensis Jul 2021 #107

It is shocking to me that so many of them are such cold blooded would be murderers...Hotentensis... Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #113

Of course they wouldn't need to get rid of all of us, just those Hortensis Jul 2021 #115

I was thinking same thing Tree Lady Jul 2021 #32

He knew the real targets so he wasn't afraid. nt live love laugh Jul 2021 #61

Yet none of this stops Dense Pense from kissing orange derriere peppertree Jul 2021 #4

Pence said that he and TFG would never see eye-to-eye on the events of 1/6. Snarkoleptic Jul 2021 #5

+1. DUzy!!! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2021 #85

I read this yesterday musette_sf Jul 2021 #6

I am somewhat impressed that he stayed and did his duty. Cracklin Charlie Jul 2021 #25

I think these idiots were so delusional dianaredwing Jul 2021 #30

Yup. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #95

I agree. As much ecstatic Jul 2021 #59

Maybe he's like the proverbial broken clock. Right twice a day. calimary Jul 2021 #110

That's a good point GusBob Jul 2021 #35

I doubt that. I think he was more afraid of the Secret Service and chose to stay put. Pobeka Jul 2021 #70

Yup. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #94

Wow. Just wow!!!! Stinky The Clown Jul 2021 #7

Best thing Pence could do now is join Jimmy Carter Captain Zero Jul 2021 #13

lol salin Jul 2021 #39

I kinda like that idea. His long road to redemption Bristlecone Jul 2021 #71

Best thing Pence could do now is join Jimmy Carter Captain Zero Jul 2021 #15

Sadly Jimmy Carter's house building days are over. That latest story I saw was Jimmy and his wife... usaf-vet Jul 2021 #55

Amen Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #96

I'd Hoped He's Hang On Long Enough For The Word To Come That Guinea Worm Was Gone... smb Jul 2021 #112

And yet he has remained silent instead of exposing malaise Jul 2021 #9

Yeah, fuck that motherfucking Establishment-clause-denying, Trump-sucking weasel. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2021 #62

Agree- flies know garbage malaise Jul 2021 #63

Ha--I fogot about him attracting flies! Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2021 #64

Flies know a shithead for sure.... AZ8theist Jul 2021 #66

Even better malaise Jul 2021 #67

This is unbelievably disturbing. liberalmuse Jul 2021 #11

Amen to that Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #97

THIS - It must happen. Tiger8 Jul 2021 #108

What The Hell Was Going On And What Did Pence Know About..... global1 Jul 2021 #12

The first thing Hitler did when he had a little bit of power... Bucky Jul 2021 #21

Night of the Long Knives. smirkymonkey Jul 2021 #76

I think it was clear that the SS would do so musette_sf Jul 2021 #44

Kick dalton99a Jul 2021 #14

I suspect just saved his own life. NCjack Jul 2021 #16

The question is was there a failed coup? Buckeyeblue Jul 2021 #17

GOP Grand Old Projection Bucky Jul 2021 #18

When I lived in New Mexico, there were Mexican immigrant skinheads. marybourg Jul 2021 #49

Watched Nicolle last night on the DVR, & by the time it was over I shuddered Hekate Jul 2021 #19

oh my! Roc2020 Jul 2021 #22

Republican treachery is some Super High Heinous Shit Champp Jul 2021 #24

No wonder Biden demanded a different WH SS detail after taking office. sop Jul 2021 #26

I thought of this, too. BadgerMom Jul 2021 #36

Another wow. crickets Jul 2021 #86

Afraid that Trump would have him offed. Wingus Dingus Jul 2021 #28

Yep. twodogsbarking Jul 2021 #101

I almost feel sorry for him. alphafemale Jul 2021 #31

So do I Jilly_in_VA Jul 2021 #34

Bloated Tick's secret service detail should immediately be rotated out and replaced with.... Aviation Pro Jul 2021 #33

Random things WA-03 Democrat Jul 2021 #40

So, Pence was afraid trump would have him killed SCantiGOP Jul 2021 #37

i think the tag line the greatest democracy has been in the rear view mirror since geoge w samsingh Jul 2021 #38

And of course, being the honorable, stand up guy that he is. He came Carlitos Brigante Jul 2021 #41

The dumbfuck still believes he has a shot at the 2024 GOP nomination!! bullwinkle428 Jul 2021 #47

Oh totally. He's gonna waltz right in and snatch the nomination from Carlitos Brigante Jul 2021 #58

Trump didn't seem to mind that Pence was in danger IronLionZion Jul 2021 #42

Of course he didn't mind if Pence was in danger. ShazzieB Jul 2021 #52

Trump controlled the Secret Service bpj62 Jul 2021 #43

I suspect that will be the general understanding as we learn more. Grasswire2 Jul 2021 #73

Holy shit Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #99

That's Hillaryous! In a Sucker-Loser kind of way. czarjak Jul 2021 #45

The only intelligent thing I can think of that he did as VP. nt joetheman Jul 2021 #46

It's a plot that reads like Mission Impossible - the 1960s version bucolic_frolic Jul 2021 #48

Or that movie that Bruce Willis starred in where Willis' character kidnapped Blue_true Jul 2021 #72

That's completely disturbing underpants Jul 2021 #51

I'll believe it when I hear it from Pence. WarGamer Jul 2021 #53

This would've been rejected in House of Cards as too implausible. NBachers Jul 2021 #54

He had seen enough movies to know that there would not be a good ending if he got in the car. nature-lover Jul 2021 #56

Holy SHIT orangecrush Jul 2021 #57

Fuckin WOW !!! uponit7771 Jul 2021 #60

And then he reaches out to Trump. marble falls Jul 2021 #65

This proves that Pence KNEW more than he let on that day FakeNoose Jul 2021 #68

BS. This is a distortion of what was reported.... reACTIONary Jul 2021 #69

So Pence was actually being a patriot. Blue_true Jul 2021 #74

There were several other leaders who did the same... reACTIONary Jul 2021 #75

If we read of 3rd world country going thru this, we'd say "Who is the tinpot dictator causing it?"nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2021 #77

Sweet mother of God Blue Owl Jul 2021 #79

Kick....n/t Upthevibe Jul 2021 #81

look at these comments from readers of Seth Abramson's article in MARCH Grasswire2 Jul 2021 #82

I dont buy this story BGBD Jul 2021 #83

I'm thinking he just stayed out of the car because he wanted to remain at the capitol. Mister Ed Jul 2021 #100

Yeah....I don't believe that either BGBD Jul 2021 #111

Supporting Donald is a calculated cost/benefit decision. keithbvadu2 Jul 2021 #88

Pence lost his faith. jaxexpat Jul 2021 #89

Everyone, and I mean everyone, behind this insurrection needs to be outed and charged. Joinfortmill Jul 2021 #91

I read that yesterday and was astounded. Texin Jul 2021 #106

That is shocking! n/t NH Ethylene Jul 2021 #109

How true can this really be? ansible Jul 2021 #114