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JohnSJ

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7. Really. I don't think so. Manchin made it very clear that he wouldn't even eliminate the

Reply to lagomorph777 (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 22, 2021, 12:32 PM

Jul 2021

filibuster just for issues involving voting rights.

I don't know if anyone remembers, but Manchin said if Sander got the nomination, he not only wouldn't back Sanders, but consider voting for trump. This isn't someone who is going to be moved by Biden or anyone. The only way this will succeed is if we win enough seats in the Senate to make Manchin, Sinema, and any other Democrat who is against the filibuster irrelevent.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/468278-manchin-says-he-wouldnt-back-sanders-against-trump-in-presidential-race

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Some in the media, and elsewhere are mischaracterizing Biden as defending the filibuster [View all] JohnSJ Jul 2021 OP

It's not his call. Never was...nt Wounded Bear Jul 2021 #1

Exactly Bear JohnSJ Jul 2021 #5

And some here went right along!! PortTack Jul 2021 #2

I imagine he could apply continual pressure in a myriad of manners. aocommunalpunch Jul 2021 #3

He could come out publicly with a recommendation to modify it. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #4

Really. I don't think so. Manchin made it very clear that he wouldn't even eliminate the JohnSJ Jul 2021 #7

He cares only about money and power. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #9

I don't think we can count on that, because he has all the power he needs right now. JohnSJ Jul 2021 #10

SCROTUS has already shown they are opposed to voting rights. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #11

but they haven't ruled on that specific issue, allowing state legislatures to over-turn an election JohnSJ Jul 2021 #12

There is a lot more to the suppression bills than that one issue. lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #13

That one issue is critical, because it allows a state legislature to overturn election results, even JohnSJ Jul 2021 #14

Thanks for the clarification. I sure had to wade thru the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments Hekate Jul 2021 #6

Thank you for this mcar Jul 2021 #8