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PSPS

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51. There's no shortage of articles about this
Mon Jul 26, 2021, 12:00 PM
Jul 2021

Besides my admittedly anecdotal experience (fully-vaccinated clients who still were infected, minor symptoms, quarantined,) here's one of hundreds of contemporary articles that goes over this:

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/how-delta-variant-upends-assumptions-about-coronavirus-2021-07-26/

"... evidence is mounting that the Delta variant, first identified in India, is capable of infecting fully vaccinated people at a greater rate than previous versions, and concerns have been raised that they may even spread the virus..."

A consistent detail you see in all the reports is just what I'm saying: The vaccine is worth getting because it will almost always prevent death or even having to go to the hospital. That's not in dispute and is very desirable. It's the prevention of infection that's the problem.

All I'm saying is that it's too soon to ring the "all clear" bell and do away with masks. If anything, people should be using better masks than have been common in the past, such as cloth masks. You're free to do whatever you want, of course. What bothers me the most is that so many businesses are just throwing it all out the window and opening wide up which means we will be condemned to this lasting longer that it had to be.

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Vaccines worked really well against preventing infections by original virus and alpha. LisaL Jul 2021 #1
In May India was being ravished by delta. Totally foreseeable. boston bean Jul 2021 #5
Exactly. LisaL Jul 2021 #7
I wear a mask in New Jersey -Rutgers professor agrees WaterSong1951 Jul 2021 #15
Responsible people are vaccinated. The irresponsible ones never wore a mask in the first place Walleye Jul 2021 #2
Then why were 100 % of people masked in the stores before CDC decided that LisaL Jul 2021 #3
Because most businesses jumped on the "it's all over" charade. Why? $$$$$$$ PSPS Jul 2021 #24
Here in Milwaukee MOMFUDSKI Jul 2021 #25
Same thing here during "tourist season" now in NE New York (Lake George area) Rhiannon12866 Jul 2021 #39
The CDC issues guidelines, which can be adopted or ignored, Hortensis Jul 2021 #41
the truly responsible people got vaccinated and continue to mask Skittles Jul 2021 #9
That's how we should've gone about it from the beginning. Humanity versus the virus Walleye Jul 2021 #11
no shit Skittles Jul 2021 #14
The honor system doesn't work among people who are dishonorable Walleye Jul 2021 #17
Nonsense leftstreet Jul 2021 #10
"it's all about me" Skittles Jul 2021 #12
Then those people take precautions, I'm not going to wear 2 seatbelts cause some other idiot decides uponit7771 Jul 2021 #48
No, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. former9thward Jul 2021 #4
It's a pandemic for everybody. LisaL Jul 2021 #6
I think President Biden is in this universe. former9thward Jul 2021 #18
We are all living in the same country. LisaL Jul 2021 #19
pandemic of the unvaccinated - consequences for everyone AlexSFCA Jul 2021 #29
stop listening to politicians and start listening to doctors and scientists Skittles Jul 2021 #8
CDC Doctors are advising everyone mask up? Link and quote? tia uponit7771 Jul 2021 #45
Sorry, but no. PSPS Jul 2021 #26
I would not put words in his mouth. former9thward Jul 2021 #27
LOL. So Biden's saying that he doesn't care if you get infected so long as you don't die? Got it! PSPS Jul 2021 #32
And doesn't care if you pass it along to others either, I guess. Pinback Jul 2021 #35
He specifically say that it's a pandemic of the unvaccinated because they're the only ones dying... Lancero Jul 2021 #36
+1, who are people listening to!? NEJM says vaxes 88% effective against Delta uponit7771 Jul 2021 #47
NEJM data shows vaxes 88% effective against delta, who are you listening to? tia uponit7771 Jul 2021 #46
Yes, 88% (or more) effective against having to go to the hospital/dying, not against being infected. PSPS Jul 2021 #49
Could you quote the article sayin efficacy against infection vs lethal and critical? thx in advance uponit7771 Jul 2021 #50
There's no shortage of articles about this PSPS Jul 2021 #51
I mean from the NEJM recent study that's recent study of the vaxes uponit7771 Jul 2021 #52
+1, I'm not going to wear an extra seatbelt cause someone else chooses not to. Macron is right uponit7771 Jul 2021 #44
You ain't living in France, are you? boston bean Jul 2021 #53
Nah, hopefully we'll adopt some of the attitude towards enabling the unvaxed. uponit7771 Jul 2021 #54
I sure hope we do. We need to make life as difficult as possible for the unvaxed. beaglelover Jul 2021 #58
Yep a parallel post on my experience. StClone Jul 2021 #13
I had it late December. I am feeling ya. boston bean Jul 2021 #16
Thanks friend StClone Jul 2021 #22
I hate to say this... cilla4progress Jul 2021 #20
Yep. Been saying it since day one. They gave into boston bean Jul 2021 #21
And they still aren't vaxxing. LisaL Jul 2021 #23
CDC did not follow science. North Shore Chicago Jul 2021 #42
Definitely. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #30
This is exactly why I felt we should have stayed masked into July dsc Jul 2021 #28
We finally, today, topped 50% vaccinated. Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #31
i agree. barbtries Jul 2021 #33
I did not listen to them at the start. I am not listening now. KentuckyWoman Jul 2021 #34
I never stopped masking IronLionZion Jul 2021 #37
It's not politically tenable to reverse course, in my opinion. David__77 Jul 2021 #38
Imposing mask mandates now wnylib Jul 2021 #40
Disagree, I'm not going to wear 2 seatbelts because idiot drives don't want to wear one. At some uponit7771 Jul 2021 #43
The morons are human petri dishes. Ligyron Jul 2021 #55
It really makes it hard to know when to listen to the CDC fescuerescue Jul 2021 #56
Vaccines are working as expected, they are NOT working 'some'. beaglelover Jul 2021 #57
Chill. They gonna tell us vaxed to mask up again. boston bean Jul 2021 #59
It is mostly hitting the willfully unvaccinated, so, let em go Tarc Jul 2021 #60
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