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Drunken Irishman

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36. Your reply to mine is the reality, tho.
Tue Jul 27, 2021, 09:27 AM
Jul 2021

You said it's a big risk for a one and done presidency. This isn't to suggest Biden alone can fix it but to play to the realities:

The EC favors the GOP no matter how well Democrats do nationally. Because of this, it's very very likely 2024 will again be a close election. Biden, as the incumbent, is best positioned to win due to that incumbency, since there is a huge advantage to being an incumbent.

Biden is also a well liked guy who seems to be able to build the type of coalition of voters Democrats will need to keep the White House, specifically suburban and urban - but more importantly, Biden made up ground with white men, doing better than Hillary in 2016.

As an incumbent, I also think he'll be less prone to being defined as a socialist, which hurt him in 2020 with pockets of the Hispanic community. I say this because many of those Hispanics who voted Trump will have experienced Biden's presidency and probably will feel more comfortable at the thought of a second term than they would with a more unknown Democrat, even if that Democrat is Harris.

Biden is best positioned because he's an incumbent ans history tells us Democrats don't have a great track record of holding the White House with a non-incumbent presidential candidate.

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Joe Biden will be [View all] Boydog Jul 2021 OP
I doubt this very, very much. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #1
Why? He can pretty much run his re-election campaign from the WH Boydog Jul 2021 #2
Because of the way he's aged between his time as VP and now. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #8
A lot of people were thinking this in 24. But can he walk away from the job? Bucky Jul 2021 #9
I remember hearing a lot of talk during the primaries that if Biden got the nod and then won, WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #12
"a lot of talk" means speculative chatter, of course. Bucky Jul 2021 #17
Yeah, these conversations were higher than rank and file, with some inside the power structure, but WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #20
I agree PatSeg Jul 2021 #24
Who did you vote for in the primaries Boydog Jul 2021 #5
Not sure how this matters. I actually had to go look it up because I couldn't remember. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #10
It's either Biden or a Republican who'll win in 2024. Drunken Irishman Jul 2021 #6
We've won elections with non-Bidens in the past Bucky Jul 2021 #11
Not a fan of a party strategy that relies on one person. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2021 #13
Never trust "I Alone Can Fix It" Bucky Jul 2021 #32
Your reply to mine is the reality, tho. Drunken Irishman Jul 2021 #36
Incumbents have a major advantage in elections. Drunken Irishman Jul 2021 #35
You are exactly 100% correct. Boydog Jul 2021 #33
I thought we were past this ageist stuff. LakeArenal Jul 2021 #14
I dont. An incumbent had an advantage so we eould be nuts to run anyone else. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #21
agree nt Celerity Jul 2021 #3
If he doesn't run there will be about twenty candidates again Boydog Jul 2021 #4
Man o man but they sure would be exceptional candidates LakeArenal Jul 2021 #15
I would hope not becauxe we would lose. Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #22
It will be Harris who likely wins the nom if Biden doesn't run, anyone who challenges her will get Celerity Jul 2021 #30
I'm thinking DeSantis will be the repub nominee...n/t SheilaAnn Jul 2021 #7
Savior vs DeSatan... lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #16
Oh, it definitely would be..LOL. n/t SheilaAnn Jul 2021 #18
DeathSentence is killing his own voters IronLionZion Jul 2021 #29
I'm not sure about this, but I am sure that if he doesn't, Kamala will be our nominee. MoonRiver Jul 2021 #19
And then the question is this...can a woman win the presidency in this day and age. Can Demsrule86 Jul 2021 #23
I get tired of being called the rust belt. murielm99 Jul 2021 #25
I don't know either, but it scares me. We must get in front of this ASAP. MoonRiver Jul 2021 #26
Biden will run Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #27
Joe Biden my be fast approaching 80, but he has hit the job running as if he were half that DFW Jul 2021 #28
Isn't it a little premature to discuss who's running in 2024? SarcasticSatyr Jul 2021 #31
It's a message board. C'mon man 😂 Boydog Jul 2021 #34
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