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107. CDC - only counting breakthroughhospitalizations and death

Tue Jul 27, 2021, 03:29 PM

Jul 2021

The CDC doesn’t count every breakthrough case. It stopped counting all breakthrough cases May 1 and now only tallies those that lead to hospitalization or death, a move the agency was criticized for by health experts. Most Americans have received at least one shot of the two currently authorized mRNA vaccines.

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BF caught COVID - breakthrough infection [View all] WilmywoodNCparalegal Jul 2021 OP

Lesson: No Trumper is your "friend". lagomorph777 Jul 2021 #1

+1 Ferrets are Cool Jul 2021 #12

LOL-- true LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #65

Absolutely this! eom BlueMTexpat Jul 2021 #69

+1 Dave says Jul 2021 #82

Stay safe and I hope that your BF makes a speedy recovery CentralMass Jul 2021 #2

Actually, the mild disease (and some rare more severe cases in those with preexisting illness) hlthe2b Jul 2021 #3

I know it's not unexpected WilmywoodNCparalegal Jul 2021 #6

They ARE rare as the data shows. It is that people have a hard time with rates and hlthe2b Jul 2021 #13

What was the rate among the un-vaxxed? LisaL Jul 2021 #20

I posted link to their surveillance previously, but if 0.098% of fully vaccinated are symptomatic hlthe2b Jul 2021 #27

Anyone can purchase a test at a drug store. Health districts and the CDC won't know LeftInTX Jul 2021 #93

Those aren't reported nor counted. It is the lab-performed PCR tests that are counted. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #94

Yes and that is why breakthrough infections with mild symptoms are probably not being reported LeftInTX Jul 2021 #96

Rapid tests are not sufficiently accurate for surveillance purposes. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #97

Those numbers are primarly pre-Delta, Ms. Toad Jul 2021 #100

The definition of "mild" by health experts is not what I would consider mild crimycarny Jul 2021 #26

When one is sick, no one is going to convince them that their illness is milld. (myself included) hlthe2b Jul 2021 #32

Agree crimycarny Jul 2021 #101

Pfizer Shot Just 39% Effective Against Delta Infection, But Largely Prevents Severe Illness, Israel womanofthehills Jul 2021 #49

Given your reassurance Big Blue Marble Jul 2021 #22

Easy: Some locales are counting Asymptomatic breakthroughs as well. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #28

I thought the CDC were only counting hospitalized and dead as "breakthroughs". Crunchy Frog Jul 2021 #58

They (CDC) are not counting asymptomatic as breaktrhough. They are countng symptomatic, hlthe2b Jul 2021 #60

CDC - only counting breakthroughhospitalizations and death womanofthehills Jul 2021 #107

Oh no! I hope you stay well and your BF's illness is brief. zuul Jul 2021 #4

Sorry to hear that, hope he feels better soon. Ocelot II Jul 2021 #5

The truth is that individuals have a hard time classifying themselves as "mild" or "severe"... hlthe2b Jul 2021 #30

True; but when you feel like you'd have to get better in order to die, you might feel Ocelot II Jul 2021 #36

NY times reported many more breakthrus than expected. Kablooie Jul 2021 #7

My bout with Covid was called "mild" too. Treefrog Jul 2021 #8

Yea, they call it "mild" meaning you aren't on the hospital on the vent. LisaL Jul 2021 #18

Yeah, I know. Believe me, I am very grateful. Treefrog Jul 2021 #23

whoa--104? crimycarny Jul 2021 #29

The fever lasted about four days. Usually hovered around 100 or so during the day. Treefrog Jul 2021 #85

That sounds absolutely miserable crimycarny Jul 2021 #102

Oh lord! I tested positive this morning... róisín_dubh Jul 2021 #56

God, no way I could have even walked to the mailbox, but this was before vax obviously. Treefrog Jul 2021 #86

I wish I could remember where the article I read was but it said that what is considered mild covid chowder66 Jul 2021 #9

I have heard the same LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2021 #16

It's still considered mild if he doesn't have to be hospitalized and feels better after a week. tblue37 Jul 2021 #10

The Israeli study said 39% efficacy for Pfizer, 33% for J&J, against Delta, the 88% was from the UK Celerity Jul 2021 #11

But as it turns out, UK saved Pfizer for younger people (under 40). LisaL Jul 2021 #17

oh, yes, I was not getting into the pros and cons of either study, just trying to point out Celerity Jul 2021 #24

The other hypothesis is that they (UK) scheduled the second shot janterry Jul 2021 #43

The more I read the more I realize you are correct. Big Blue Marble Jul 2021 #14

Difference in surveillance. One is looking at lab-confirmed asymptomatic infection while hlthe2b Jul 2021 #35

I am aware of the difference in data presented. Big Blue Marble Jul 2021 #39

Yet you have repeatedly posted sensationalized conclusions... hlthe2b Jul 2021 #41

I am not posting anything but what is happening in my city over the last three weeks. Big Blue Marble Jul 2021 #44

Not cases, but infections. Asymptomatic breakthough from lab surveillance does not equal hlthe2b Jul 2021 #46

My health department is reporting cases. Big Blue Marble Jul 2021 #50

They are counting lab confirmations as cases. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #51

And you have no idea whether they are asymptomatic or not. Big Blue Marble Jul 2021 #55

When you have provided the data that shows otherwise, I'll be happy to read it, but hlthe2b Jul 2021 #61

It's the same in my county. We had a few cases a day, then about 10 days ago, cases started climbing liberal_mama Jul 2021 #109

Agree, and the CDC is a political institution radius777 Jul 2021 #108

Since Fauci said they Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #42

Yes that is what I think too. Big Blue Marble Jul 2021 #45

Israeli study said Pfizer was 39% effective against Delta, not 88%. LisaL Jul 2021 #15

88% effective against hospitalization and 91% against severe illness. hlthe2b Jul 2021 #19

That still means shitload of people are going to get breakthrough infections. LisaL Jul 2021 #21

No. It is rare. CDC just reviewed and showed that SYMPTOMATIC Breakthrough infections 0.098% hlthe2b Jul 2021 #25

Saw that too. Open question in my mind is how this will change with Delta ,,, Pobeka Jul 2021 #37

One concern (hah!) I have Tadpole Raisin Jul 2021 #53

With varicella, the infection remains hidden (latent). Wth polio, the belief is that it is a hlthe2b Jul 2021 #59

His friend was likely shedding a massive viral load at the dinner greenjar_01 Jul 2021 #31

Un-vaxxed, not feeling well, going out to dinner. LisaL Jul 2021 #33

Seriously! greenjar_01 Jul 2021 #34

Right? Some fuckin' people! LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #66

We didn't know he wasn't feeling well WilmywoodNCparalegal Jul 2021 #92

+1000. nt ecstatic Jul 2021 #103

Bingo! Random Boomer Jul 2021 #52

That's my theory also Strelnikov_ Jul 2021 #57

So sorry this happened to you guys wryter2000 Jul 2021 #38

Sorry he had bt and is not well Meowmee Jul 2021 #40

The zinc part is good. Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #70

Sounds good...I only take zinc if very ill which for me was covid Meowmee Jul 2021 #110

Time to mask up again, folks. roamer65 Jul 2021 #47

+100 Duppers Jul 2021 #80

We have had 5 test positive this week at work madville Jul 2021 #48

Wouldn't be a friend to me anymore... roamer65 Jul 2021 #54

I am so sorry. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2021 #62

Thanks for posting and it seems members are having breakthroughs, but Maggiemayhem Jul 2021 #63

So glad you guys have been vaccinated. Sucha NastyWoman Jul 2021 #64

any word on how the "friend" is doing? LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #67

Not having a lot of fun WilmywoodNCparalegal Jul 2021 #104

I would imagine so-- thanks LymphocyteLover Jul 2021 #105

You know which vaccine we hear little about is Moderna Historic NY Jul 2021 #68

I had Moderna. Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #71

I was just a bit tired the afternoon of the day following the day of my 2nd dose. beaglelover Jul 2021 #72

All I had was a little bit of a sore upper arm Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #74

Yeah, forgot about the sore arm after both vaccines. No biggie went away after a few days. beaglelover Jul 2021 #77

I was ready for something to happen Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #81

Moderna's dose is also higher. roamer65 Jul 2021 #73

I also had moderna. LisaL Jul 2021 #75

.. roamer65 Jul 2021 #84

My Rx called me when the had an extra shot.... Historic NY Jul 2021 #76

I heard it was best. Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #79

I wanted it to. Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #78

100mcg versus 30mcg for Pfizer. roamer65 Jul 2021 #83

I will be the first in line for the booster. Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #87

I hope we are allowed boosters sooner rather than later. LisaL Jul 2021 #95

They likely didn't need to go as high. LisaL Jul 2021 #88

I talked to a pharmacist and she said go with this one. Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #89

I wanted either Pfizer or Moderna. LisaL Jul 2021 #90

The city health department only had Moderna. Texaswitchy Jul 2021 #91

Civil case? roamer65 Jul 2021 #98

Didn't President Biden get the Pfizer and VP Harris get the Moderna? KewlKat Jul 2021 #99

Be careful I was feeling like bad flu for 8 days not even JCMach1 Jul 2021 #106