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cthulu2016

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11. That is not unreasonable, and not a problem with the poll
Wed Oct 17, 2012, 03:02 PM
Oct 2012

The problem with the poll is that it has Romney up by 6% nationally due to Gallup's particular likely voter screen.

But whatever the right number is, the disparity between the south region and the other regions is huge. Is the true disaprity between south and west 28% total? We don't know... but it's in the 20's. Even if Obama wins in a landslide that difference between the south and everyone else will still be there, except it would be something like WEST O+15 SOUTH R+14.

The census uses four major divisions of the country and pollsters weight their responses by region, so the southern sample is counted as 32% of the total because that is the correct percentage of the electorate in the south (the most populous of the four regions)

Again, I am not saying +22% is correct. I am saying that the huge difference between the south and the other three regions is correct. In a poll Obama is winning a huge regional disparity will remain.

I think it is great news that even in a bad poll Obama is leading in three of the four regions.

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Gallup Poll Crosstabs - R+22 in the South [View all] Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 OP
It seems as if the South is overrepresented in the Gallup polls meow2u3 Oct 2012 #1
That isn't an oversample per se Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #6
well, it is the South quinnox Oct 2012 #2
We should have lost the civil war. Hamlette Oct 2012 #3
I understand your sentiment edhopper Oct 2012 #7
Bigot. Fawke Em Oct 2012 #24
Bigot seems a tad harsh considering what I said. Hamlette Oct 2012 #30
No, it's not. Fawke Em Oct 2012 #41
"More than 200 years ago"?? Huh? kath Oct 2012 #43
Which is why my post said "I know there are some nice people living in the south" Hamlette Oct 2012 #46
"I know there are some nice people living in the south..." Hosnon Oct 2012 #48
no, it is not the same shit Hamlette Oct 2012 #55
Boy, you make a shitty case for embracing the South. Marr Oct 2012 #56
No, but Reconstruction should have been far more harsh. hifiguy Oct 2012 #51
Once again, the rest of the country will step up and save us from TwilightGardener Oct 2012 #4
Buncha stupid motherfuckers. tabasco Oct 2012 #5
Gallup or Southern White Republicans? Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #12
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #8
Hmm, let me think... Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #9
They are not overcounting the south. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #13
That totally makes sense. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #22
That explains why I am drowning reflection Oct 2012 #10
That is not unreasonable, and not a problem with the poll cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #11
Oh, I am not questioning their results. Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #15
The census southern region is big, so we have at least one wrapped up cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #18
Do you have a breakdown of these regions used for polling? nt Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #19
i was wrong -- see below cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #20
Thank you. Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #21
The Mason-Dixon line was the north border of MD cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #29
Actually, Gallup uses a different regional breakdown bjhunt Oct 2012 #31
According to your link: npk Oct 2012 #39
The link is from July. Those numbers are old. /nt nsd Oct 2012 #42
Here is Gallup's regional definitions. morningfog Oct 2012 #37
Don't forget Delaware. Jennicut Oct 2012 #25
OOPS! cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #28
Well, it turned into South bashing cordelia Oct 2012 #14
facts are facts quinnox Oct 2012 #16
I edited it at 3pm Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #17
I saw it after your edit cordelia Oct 2012 #26
So what? Floyd_Gondolli Oct 2012 #45
It probably just means the R support is super strong in the South, and so what? Lex Oct 2012 #23
So what = trying to tone down the angst Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #35
So Romney will win the Presidency of the Confederacy? maxrandb Oct 2012 #27
Seeing stats such as that make me want to move to a different state. tarheelsunc Oct 2012 #32
There is that, and there is Ruby the Liberal Oct 2012 #33
Then those in red states deserve their misery. Zoeisright Oct 2012 #34
even those in red states who vote Democratic? Terra Alta Oct 2012 #36
Like all the black folks and all us other Democrats here? Lex Oct 2012 #40
The West also includes Nevernose Oct 2012 #38
Explain to me why we fought a bloody Civil War to bring them back into the country? Suji to Seoul Oct 2012 #44
I am now a fan of the electoral college. nt Comrade_McKenzie Oct 2012 #47
Its entirely possible Obama will lose the national popular vote and win the election easily. DCBob Oct 2012 #49
As long as Obama takes the states B Calm Oct 2012 #52
The EC vote favors the President at this point. DCBob Oct 2012 #53
It matters in terms of national polls Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #50
Which is why I call national polls BULLSHIT LynneSin Oct 2012 #54
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