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FarPoint

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62. I never heard of either....

Mon Aug 2, 2021, 12:01 AM

Aug 2021

Do you think a video clip is on YouTube? I agree with the statement...the vaccine is working but can not respond quite fast enough...

As I understand it, the Delta is 1000 times higher in viral load in anyone's nares, vax'ed or not...The vaccinated infected/exposed responds but is just not as fast as the virus loading...may take 2-3 days to build up enough of a resistance while the virus continues its assault thus one shows at a minimum positive PCR for covid-19...the virus is being neutralized as well...a process.... Kind of like oral antibiotics...got an infected finger, get on antibiotics and you see improvement in about 2 days...requires doses for 10 days....

So, I'm thinking...I'm vax'ed and also going to wear a mask, N95 if in any close contact with another...reduce the exposure concentration...Not going to any public events, groups etc...shop in early AM only, revamp all protective protocols....

Fingers crossed.

Ohhhh an MSNBC Segment...familiar indeed...just piss poor with names...hahahaha..

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49 people who were fully vaccinated have died of COVID in N.J. Here's what we know. [View all] Klaralven Aug 2021 OP

30 of them over age 80 elleng Aug 2021 #1

And, that age group probably got the vaccine at the beginning. bamagal62 Aug 2021 #5

as did I. elleng Aug 2021 #17

... Lucinda Aug 2021 #2

49 out of 5.2 million, or 0.00006% !!! Freaking amazing success! Deceptive headline. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #59

Very sad, thanks for sharing this article. appalachiablue Aug 2021 #3

Let's just put the facts on the table... FarPoint Aug 2021 #4

Looking like we need boosters after 5 months now mchill Aug 2021 #6

We need boosters but there seem to be no plans. LisaL Aug 2021 #7

The data does not yet indicate boosters James48 Aug 2021 #32

While we wait, people will start getting sick and dying. LisaL Aug 2021 #33

You don't know "the booster is supposed to be given at six months". James48 Aug 2021 #35

I clearly stated that booster has to be given at 6 months per Pfizer. LisaL Aug 2021 #37

Facts. James48 Aug 2021 #38

Israel is giving it to anyone over 60. Not a small group. LisaL Aug 2021 #39

Probably going to happen here by Sept or Oct mchill Aug 2021 #69

That thought about getting the Booster... FarPoint Aug 2021 #61

How old are you? mchill Aug 2021 #70

I'm a first responder RN... FarPoint Aug 2021 #71

I've heard those over 60 and immunocompromised mchill Aug 2021 #72

That's it exactly! Thanks! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #45

Your description is dead on Larissa Aug 2021 #50

I think to put this in context we need to know Tomconroy Aug 2021 #8

75 percent of 18 to 65 and 95% 65 and over have been vaccinated in NJ Klaralven Aug 2021 #13

This summer is going to be nothing like last winter. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #15

Those numbers are from from January 1 through July 12. lapucelle Aug 2021 #9

Oh for heavens sake! Tomconroy Aug 2021 #12

Well, thanks for that interesting bit of info!!!! nt LAS14 Aug 2021 #16

oh wow, that makes a TON of difference!!! Thank you oldsoftie Aug 2021 #20

yeah but what worries me... druidity33 Aug 2021 #22

It's pretty much a given that the data is incomplete and likely an undercount, lapucelle Aug 2021 #25

Thank you for providing crucial context OP failed to provide. hay rick Aug 2021 #41

So, it's amazingly good news. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #58

Damed clickbait doomscrolling headline obamanut2012 Aug 2021 #65

That's an incredibly good number NickB79 Aug 2021 #10

yes, it is NJCher Aug 2021 #27

Things must be different out east Zeitghost Aug 2021 #40

Their immunity levels probably weren't good. JoanofArgh Aug 2021 #11

did you happen to watch Jonathan Capehart this morning? NJCher Aug 2021 #30

Thank you for sharing bdamomma Aug 2021 #34

I think this was the Capehart segment you were summarizing SouthBayDem Aug 2021 #36

thank you SouthBayDem NJCher Aug 2021 #47

I never heard of either.... FarPoint Aug 2021 #62

How Many People Usually Die In Same Period of Time? Indykatie Aug 2021 #14

Did the type of vaccine matter? SergeStorms Aug 2021 #18

So many would like to know the answer to that. I wish we could get a breakdown oregonjen Aug 2021 #28

There's some anecdotal evidence that Moderna is a little better than Pfizer Ex Lurker Aug 2021 #52

Exactly. Leaving that detail out irresponsible, but that is the pattern that has been followed JohnSJ Aug 2021 #31

More evidence the vaccine works extremely well. Jon King Aug 2021 #19

And yet, everywhere I go lately, the spouse and I are the ONLY Cousin Dupree Aug 2021 #21

49 deaths out of 5.2 million fully vaccinated NJ residents - not a reason to panic. Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #23

It's good news being repackaged as bad to instill fear (and get ratings/clicks/views) Zeitghost Aug 2021 #43

in 2017-2018, 61,000 Americans died from influenza. maxsolomon Aug 2021 #24

TERROR! TERROR! FEAR! FEAR! alphafemale Aug 2021 #26

What were they vaccinated with, JNJ or Pfizer/Bio n Tech or Moderna. Isn't that importnat? JohnSJ Aug 2021 #29

It would seem to be very important. joetheman Aug 2021 #49

Scientists and researchers are working on an answer to your question. lapucelle Aug 2021 #56

Just like my second cousin tonight Joelteply Aug 2021 #42

My condolences to you & family. Months ago it was thought possible we would soon beat Covid luckone Aug 2021 #57

I'm curious to know if they still masked up and did social distancing. Worried2020 Aug 2021 #44

Thirty of them were over 80. LisaL Aug 2021 #46

My parents are over 80 Ex Lurker Aug 2021 #53

that article gave me a paywall orleans Aug 2021 #48

Of 5.2 million fully vaccinated people in NJ, 49 have died from coronavirus MyMission Aug 2021 #51

That snapshot in time would have been incredibly misleading. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #55

A statement of facts is not misleading. Facts are not responsible for the inferences (good or bad) lapucelle Aug 2021 #60

While I agree that facts, accompanied by complete information about what the facts mean Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #64

How many fully vaccinated people in NJ have contracted the virus? Iggo Aug 2021 #54

I think getting active hospitalized infection rate post vaccinated would help. FarPoint Aug 2021 #63

The CDC is collecting the hospital case data, but not all states are choosing to report them. lapucelle Aug 2021 #66

What is the total number of people who have died from Covid? kentuck Aug 2021 #67

All but 6 were 65+ according to the article. That coupled with underlying issues seemed to be the themaguffin Aug 2021 #68