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20. There doesn't need to be an indictment to impeach

Fri Aug 6, 2021, 08:56 PM

Aug 2021

He us getting every bit of due process he is entitled to under the impeachment but that isn't the same as due process for a legal proceeding, for instance he wont get to confront his accusers.

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The Cuomo situation comes down to this [View all] iemanja Aug 2021 OP

It is about whether anyone accused should have justice treestar Aug 2021 #1

Women are accused iemanja Aug 2021 #4

I said no such thing treestar Aug 2021 #77

You think harassment... tonedevil Aug 2021 #81

This is not a job treestar Aug 2021 #88

I don't even know how to respond... tonedevil Aug 2021 #96

You didn't respond to the point treestar Aug 2021 #98

Tell me: has Donald Trump had a determination of guilt? brooklynite Aug 2021 #84

It is political too treestar Aug 2021 #89

So you think we should acquit a sexual harassment because Republican blicans do it? brooklynite Aug 2021 #90

Is the body that will decide majority Democratic? treestar Aug 2021 #91

Yes. brooklynite Aug 2021 #94

I never said the process was unfair treestar Aug 2021 #99

Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2021 #2

Agreed iemanja Aug 2021 #10

You are most welcome. H2O Man Aug 2021 #12

Cuomo will never resign, though he should. He's lost all moral authority and the ability to govern. sop Aug 2021 #3

I agree iemanja Aug 2021 #5

I think everyone should be held accountable for their behavior. I don't like what happened to abqtommy Aug 2021 #6

I am really ashamed that Franken was thrown oiut by Democratic. All the Republicans have to do is ShazamIam Aug 2021 #37

I don't think demanding that anyone surrender their rights is classy. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #38

The Al Franken situation Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #64

So are you saying that the Democratic Attorney General is corrupt or just incompetent? brooklynite Aug 2021 #85

I haven't read the report. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #87

That's how we ajudicate criminal charges for n my country... brooklynite Aug 2021 #92

Then let the impeachment process Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #93

;-{) Goonch Aug 2021 #7

Recommended. Treefrog Aug 2021 #8

Excellent Post leftieNanner Aug 2021 #9

It is also as simple as any person charged with a crime has the right to due process. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #11

and the workplace violations? iemanja Aug 2021 #13

Sexual harrassment in the workplace is a crime. What I am objecting to is the demand that he not ShazamIam Aug 2021 #39

You're objecting to his being held accountable iemanja Aug 2021 #43

No that is what you are saying.The purpose of the Impeachment(indictment) ShazamIam Aug 2021 #44

Sure, though that has nothing H2O Man Aug 2021 #14

The NY AG has listed allegations, is there an indictment, is there a separate impeachment ShazamIam Aug 2021 #21

If he does not resign, H2O Man Aug 2021 #22

I guess that is Cuomo's decision, Why the rush to judgement? ShazamIam Aug 2021 #51

Off withhis head - but don't rush. NotANeocon Aug 2021 #55

Yss. but I thought I was replying to someone elsse on the thread, thanks. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #56

The Albany DA is looking at criminal charges. Blue_true Aug 2021 #26

It's a civil process H2O Man Aug 2021 #29

Why will it be worse if he doesn't resign? ShazamIam Aug 2021 #45

Thanks I understand now, there is both an impeachment and a criminal process in play. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #69

+1 Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #65

There's a separate impeachment investigation going on. Kaleva Aug 2021 #71

The impeachment is the document that lists the charges, it is not a trial, a trial will follow the ShazamIam Aug 2021 #40

Of course. H2O Man Aug 2021 #50

What does due process have to do with keeping a job? AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #15

My point is he has the right to due process. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #17

It is an elected position not subject to at will employment law treestar Aug 2021 #78

Honest question - do you believe that Donald Trump received sufficient "due process" over bullwinkle428 Aug 2021 #23

TFGs process is still due, incomplete,and and continues. NotANeocon Aug 2021 #57

His impeachment Senate trials Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #66

I don't think demanding that he surrender his right to a trial is classy. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #70

It is more complicated than that. His option may be to resign or there will be an impeachment hearin karynnj Aug 2021 #82

A poll on news tonight supposedly indicates 70% of NYers think he should resign. Hoyt Aug 2021 #16

So hey let's show the world, the Democratic don't support due process. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #18

He should resign so that he does no further damage to Democrats and Hoyt Aug 2021 #19

I don't consider that a reason to deny due process. Is there an indictment? ShazamIam Aug 2021 #24

He hasn't been denied due process iemanja Aug 2021 #30

Oh, so according to your knowledge base only an investigation and allegations are needed for a ShazamIam Aug 2021 #33

Conviction has nothing to do with it iemanja Aug 2021 #41

Those are allegations produced by the AG James investigation, next, an impeachment, then a trial. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #47

Due process in this country Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #67

Yes, I agree. nt ShazamIam Aug 2021 #76

I believe the opposite is true. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #58

I think demanding that he resign without due process is the shameful thing going on. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #75

How will it damage the Democrats? treestar Aug 2021 #79

There doesn't need to be an indictment to impeach ripcord Aug 2021 #20

Impeachment is due process. Has it happened, has he been impeached? ShazamIam Aug 2021 #25

The legislature judiciary committee has a certified copy of the AG's report. Blue_true Aug 2021 #28

Ok, then instead of an indictment, there will be an impeachment, that still is not a trial, it ShazamIam Aug 2021 #31

The District Attorney for the county that includes Albany appears ready Blue_true Aug 2021 #34

A trial follows an impeachment which is only the bringing of formal charges, not a verdict. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #35

An impeachment is an indictment, it is where the formal charges he will be tried for will be ShazamIam Aug 2021 #48

Why should he put the state and, to some extent, Democrats in that position? Hoyt Aug 2021 #54

I was confused, I didn't realize the AG was investigating for the impeachment committee. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #59

An impeachment is an indictment. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #74

What is your opinion on the allegations of sexual harrasement against Kavanagh? Kaleva Aug 2021 #72

It isn't related to the demand that he be denied his due process. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #73

But should he not have been appointed to SCOTUS even though he was never convicted? Kaleva Aug 2021 #86

Topic move. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #95

Maybe some who say Cuomo should get due process didn't say the same for Kavanaugh Kaleva Aug 2021 #97

There may never be a criminal indictment Polybius Aug 2021 #83

As awise politician once said NotANeocon Aug 2021 #60

Sounds like one of the old Dixiecrats when I was young. 70% is high. Hoyt Aug 2021 #61

No - it was Diefenbaker - NotANeocon Aug 2021 #62

Are politicians who hold out when a solid majority want them to resign, treating Hoyt Aug 2021 #63

Adventuresin Wonderland. NotANeocon Aug 2021 #27

You think you're cute iemanja Aug 2021 #32

A criminal complaint has been lodged against him. It is being investigated. nt Blue_true Aug 2021 #36

the results of the investigation are in iemanja Aug 2021 #42

The criminal complaint was lodged in the county that includes Albany. Blue_true Aug 2021 #46

Can you spell SATIRE? NotANeocon Aug 2021 #52

Go ask Alice indeed. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #49

She's just next door I think - or she might have moved? NotANeocon Aug 2021 #53

I always hate it when a Dem does shitty things like this... Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #68

Cuomo needs to go (and hopefully drag Trump with him) gulliver Aug 2021 #80