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Hekate

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37. Do you remember who started this war? Do you remember he promised we were not ...
Tue Aug 10, 2021, 06:18 PM
Aug 2021

… going to be “nation building”? Just get in and out? Hm?

That was BushCheney, GOP, not Joe Biden. It was 20 damn years ago. And we got sucked into the delusion of nation-building.

That country is not so much “broken” as it simply never was what we think of as a nation. It is a collection of tribes. Learn to do what the Mughals did and learn to negotiate with tribal leaders — that’s probably what Pakistan intends to do. I don’t know about China’s methods.

Just accept that we can’t force them to change no matter how long we stay.

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Multiply this by many other countries RussBLib Aug 2021 #1
No, I can't. Nor can I look away from other horrors around the world. But... TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #2
unbelieveable...150 views and only 2 people responding Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #3
You didn't ask a simple question... albacore Aug 2021 #4
Again...same question. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #6
You said: "We might have to go back in" Captain Stern Aug 2021 #44
Well played. Treefrog Aug 2021 #55
Nothing personal here... albacore Aug 2021 #52
There are dozens of countries SCantiGOP Aug 2021 #5
C'mon.. same repetitive question Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #8
Yes, if you demand a yes or no answer SCantiGOP Aug 2021 #11
OK Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #13
It is a sad thing. If it doesn't offend your humanity you are lacking. AndyS Aug 2021 #7
Thank you...OK....So i assume you can look away . Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #10
Seeing it and being able to do anything about are two different things. AndyS Aug 2021 #15
Did we lose the Vietnam war? Mosby Aug 2021 #30
Yes. AndyS Aug 2021 #32
Well the Communists wanted it all. Mosby Aug 2021 #35
The cold war went in our favor but AndyS Aug 2021 #39
Unless we are willing to be absolutely vicious, we are not Blue_true Aug 2021 #46
i cant turn away samsingh Aug 2021 #9
That is not a simple question. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #12
OK....I understand. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #14
I'm not sure what you are looking for... Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #16
Thank you for your post. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #19
I respectfully disagree. lark Aug 2021 #17
Vietnam all over again. cbabe Aug 2021 #18
I find it awful, heartbreaking but see nothing that I can do about it. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #20
You can't do anything. I can't do anything. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #21
Post removed Post removed Aug 2021 #28
I do too. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #29
Nothing short of invading Pakistan Red Mountain Aug 2021 #22
The problem is apparent edhopper Aug 2021 #23
I really hope the Afghan army can deal with this. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #24
The world will look away. edhopper Aug 2021 #34
yes there are places that are bad. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #42
Agreed edhopper Aug 2021 #54
I can't look away UnderThisLaw Aug 2021 #25
Do you consistently apply this sentiment worldwide? LanternWaste Aug 2021 #26
What do we do about it? Calculating Aug 2021 #27
I can't look away, but I'm at a loss as to what should be done about it. 11 Bravo Aug 2021 #31
NOT a simple question. Do you envision the US being there forever? Really forever... Hekate Aug 2021 #33
Not forever. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #38
We HAD a multinational force. Remember? When the US was attacked on 9/11, NATO was invoked Hekate Aug 2021 #47
I hear you. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #51
No one is telling you that, and you know it Hekate Aug 2021 #53
I think the situation is tragic. Nt Mosby Aug 2021 #36
Do you remember who started this war? Do you remember he promised we were not ... Hekate Aug 2021 #37
I remember it all. Rustyeye77 Aug 2021 #40
No, actually it was a well-intentioned failure, or this would not be happening. A retired general... Hekate Aug 2021 #49
I can't ignore the symptom of the problem that is Western Asia... haele Aug 2021 #41
Yep. After WW I the signatories of the Treaty of Versailles took T-squares, compasses, ... Hekate Aug 2021 #50
I see it, and I don't look away. Captain Stern Aug 2021 #43
Grotesque horrors happen around the world every day and we hear nothing about them. Blue_true Aug 2021 #45
Yes n/t Devil Child Aug 2021 #48
What are you going to do about it Rusty? You personally? Write a letter? panader0 Aug 2021 #56
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