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Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
63. No. It is not curious.
Wed Aug 11, 2021, 01:46 PM
Aug 2021

Recall elections against California Governors are not unheard of. Gavin Newsome has been effective in getting a solid Democratic agenda in place in California so naturally the people who oppose it are going to abuse the initiative process to go after him. Republicans are not super popular in California electoral politics so they will often have to use the initiative process to try to remain relevant.

To be honest, Newsome has done some things personally (the French Laundry fundraiser) that were really unforced errors.

In regards to New York. No one made Cuomo sexually harass 11 women that we know of. Cuomo has been effective (for the most part) in leadership around COVID-19. However, when there is a pattern of misconduct, your leadership in an area, even a major one like handling COVID-19, is not a reason to continue support.

Republicans will use whatever is at their disposal to remove Democratic politicians from office. The Newsom and Cuomo situation are VERY different from each other. Democratic leaders need to be smart and disciplined because unlike Republicans, who have no real moral or ethical values, we Democrats will police our own. Cuomo brought his situation on himself. He got his due process, unlike Al Franken. Newsom's situation is entirely partisan politics. I expect him to survive, though it is up to Democrats in California to turn out to make sure this farcical recall goes down in flames. I just hope that Newsom learns that while he is fairly popular, he needs to stop being arrogant and believing that he gets to follow a different set of rules than the rest of us.

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So are the Republican governors of two large states. Sometimes... TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #1
But the two D governors will lose their jobs. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #3
We'll see. Life is not necessarily fair, and sometimes takes forever to... TreasonousBastard Aug 2021 #6
How do you figure? shanti Aug 2021 #8
Democrats are not going to vote. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #9
Well aren't you a little ray of sunshine AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #17
I'm not saying Cuomo was innocent. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #22
NY is only the 4th largest state by population Celerity Aug 2021 #33
Yeah no kidding? The two Democratic controlled states SoonerPride Aug 2021 #36
I am far less pessimistic about CA than you are. nt Celerity Aug 2021 #37
To hear certain DUers tell it, California Dems sitting out the recall is a done deal... Hekate Aug 2021 #56
Agreed. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #64
We can vote by mail in California Nictuku Aug 2021 #35
"Ousted by apathy." Treefrog Aug 2021 #42
Don't be so hasty. You never know but I think that most observers expect Newsom to hold on to his totodeinhere Aug 2021 #23
Newsom is not going to lose. Larry Elder is no Arnold. brush Aug 2021 #26
Yep/ nt lostnfound Aug 2021 #51
And the two R governors will probably be Bettie Aug 2021 #53
There is only one way Democrats can get rid of a Republican governor. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #66
I know....but it doesn't make it less Bettie Aug 2021 #67
Thanks for the great posts, very sensible Beringia Aug 2021 #70
... for killing people. OilemFirchen Aug 2021 #5
"So are the Republican governors of two large states." LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #27
No, one of them did it all on his own, elleng Aug 2021 #2
I'm not saying Cuomo isn't guilty of what he's being accused of. Ligyron Aug 2021 #10
This Rorey Aug 2021 #11
Well, that French Laundry thing was pretty damn stupid. Treefrog Aug 2021 #43
Makes me wonder if the new NY Gov is a neoliberal like Sinema and Manchin ShazamIam Aug 2021 #4
You mean like the Democrats who supported the infrastructure bill? AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #18
I am specifically referring to the Budget (reconciliation bill) and voting rights legislation. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #24
I mean how they are not supporting the reconciliation budget bill and voting rights bills. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #57
The ones they voted for? AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #58
Do some research, much is known about her... Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #19
I did, read her background and it does nothing to disuade my worry. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #25
What are you worried she will do? Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #28
Apparently She's a SEEKRIT Republican taking orders from the Turtle! nt AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #31
heh, I guess... Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #32
I see others have felt free to speak on my behalf. I am surprised at how willingly the Democratic ShazamIam Aug 2021 #52
Well... Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #59
I didn't attack them, and if it is not known it is not because there has been no news of it. ShazamIam Aug 2021 #60
That is Manchin and Sinema... Ohio Joe Aug 2021 #61
Yes, and I fear being banned if I express my opinion. I have already had comments removed, ShazamIam Aug 2021 #69
I recommend a nightly dose of Rachel Maddow, who last night gave a precis of NY governors... Hekate Aug 2021 #65
No disrespect for Rachel intended but I don't need someone to explain what I see in the ShazamIam Aug 2021 #68
If only there was a way to research the background and voting history of Lt. Gov. Hochul... brooklynite Aug 2021 #54
Upstaging Bear Creek Aug 2021 #7
I see, you think Gov Cuomo was trying to distract attention from the Infrastructure vote? brooklynite Aug 2021 #14
I can't even with the conspiracy bullshit today... AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #29
What conspiracy Bear Creek Aug 2021 #38
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar... tritsofme Aug 2021 #50
Does anyone else find it curious? brooklynite Aug 2021 #12
Thanks elleng Aug 2021 #16
Not looking at this right Bear Creek Aug 2021 #39
"Brought out now to drown out the good news about Biden's bill." brooklynite Aug 2021 #41
Not conspiracy theory Bear Creek Aug 2021 #45
Maybe I missed something but ... Ligyron Aug 2021 #47
They're lucky because, after accusations from months ago, the Governor chose today to resign? brooklynite Aug 2021 #48
Not particularly. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #13
NY Still Has A Democratic Governor SoCalDavidS Aug 2021 #15
Oh bother. hunter Aug 2021 #20
Missing the point. Bear Creek Aug 2021 #40
That Jerry Springer sideshow was brought to you by CUOMO and nobody else. Maru Kitteh Aug 2021 #46
I do not. The fact that Cuomo is a Democrat is beside the point. He got what he deserves and I am totodeinhere Aug 2021 #21
I like how all these posters are throwing in the towel over a month from the election AZSkiffyGeek Aug 2021 #30
They are neither increasing voter excitement or depressing it... brooklynite Aug 2021 #55
Most every Dem gov is under attack to varying degrees. Kaleva Aug 2021 #34
Not at all. I expect nothing less from the GOPer dirtbags. GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #44
I wish that the Republicans Gov's that are murdering their constituents got even half the coverage MustLoveBeagles Aug 2021 #49
I do. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #62
No. It is not curious. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #63
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