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Rorey

(8,514 posts)
123. Assumptions
Thu Aug 12, 2021, 02:17 PM
Aug 2021

I've found it's not a good idea to assume people are saying something that they didn't say.

My question, which prompted your original post to me, was directed at a specific poster in order to get some clarification. I wasn't trying to set anyone up. It's somewhat insulting that you would say something like that, but I'll let it pass because you obviously don't know me.

None of us here know what happened between Cuomo and multiple women. I'm happy that we're finally at a point in time where women (and men, too) don't have to just shut up and take it when someone acts inappropriately. I'm no longer in the workforce, but I lived that life for years.

Realistically, I think we can all agree that Cuomo is probably never going to admit to wrongdoing. Multiple women have made accusations, and in at least one case, there were witnesses. It's likely that as the investigation plays out, people will come forward to corroborate what the women have said. We do tend to vent to each other about creepy men. Just sayin'.

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Cuomo is soooooo North Shore Chicago Aug 2021 #1
Was the accusation confirmed? live love laugh Aug 2021 #2
Exactly how can that be confirmed? milestogo Aug 2021 #3
If it's not confirmed it doesn't mean he did do it either. live love laugh Aug 2021 #4
The Puritans required 2 witnesses to convict for rape. Maybe that would work. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #6
I can't believe we still have to have this discussion. milestogo Aug 2021 #7
Why? live love laugh Aug 2021 #8
What kind of evidence Piasladic Aug 2021 #45
I think you stumbled into the wrong forum. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #69
Why? live love laugh Aug 2021 #75
I think "Believe the Woman (or the accuser) meant 'Take them seriously and treat their Nexus2 Aug 2021 #81
My question is regarding why I'm assumed to be in the wrong forum. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #82
Where is what you explained not being done? Who's not taking this seriously? nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #84
Actually, I replied to the wrong post, my apologies. Nexus2 Aug 2021 #88
The attitude you are expressing is right out of the 70s, and earlier - Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #83
I never said there had to be witnesses. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #85
I'm not going to play games about sexual harassment, assault, or rape. n/t Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #86
Neither am I. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #87
Have you listened to or read all of wnylib Aug 2021 #112
Could have answered with "yes" the accusation was confirmed treestar Aug 2021 #114
So what is required to prove it? treestar Aug 2021 #113
Confirmed... EYESORE 9001 Aug 2021 #22
Having been groped myself... Rorey Aug 2021 #11
👍 Walleye Aug 2021 #17
People wonder why more women don't come forward and tell - this Cuomo situation is another example PoliticAverse Aug 2021 #40
Yup Rorey Aug 2021 #62
Looks like the reports are valid about Cuomo PufPuf23 Aug 2021 #73
Why shouldn't an accusation of anything have to be confirmed? treestar Aug 2021 #115
Yes. He resigned. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2021 #16
Resigning does not confirm this specific act. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #21
What WOULD confirm it, in your opinion? NT Rorey Aug 2021 #33
Al Franken resigned... CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #39
I agree Rorey Aug 2021 #61
The thing is. CrackityJones75 Aug 2021 #72
So the accusation alone is enough? treestar Aug 2021 #116
Did I say that? Rorey Aug 2021 #120
Then what would confirm it, in your opinion? treestar Aug 2021 #121
Assumptions Rorey Aug 2021 #123
Doesn't mean that Cuomo did it treestar Aug 2021 #124
I'm sure we don't know as much as Leticia James now knows Rorey Aug 2021 #126
I do not think my posts are that abrasive treestar Aug 2021 #127
It would if he were Republican though. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2021 #52
Huh? 🙃 live love laugh Aug 2021 #54
Right. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2021 #56
Right what? Your statement that it would fly if he were Republican is alarming. live love laugh Aug 2021 #80
Crickets to 43 accusers...right indeed. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #109
That's not it treestar Aug 2021 #117
To be fair, he resigned when faced with the prospect that he would be impeached and removed. I don't OnDoutside Aug 2021 #103
No it wasn't, he denied that Meowmee Aug 2021 #74
IIRC, they were witnessed and/or corroborated by contemporaneous communications. [nt] Nexus2 Aug 2021 #79
What was confirmed was that several of his staffers were watching Cuomo on TV pnwmom Aug 2021 #97
I think you may have meant to ask whether the accusation was proven, rather than confirmed. OnDoutside Aug 2021 #104
Thanks maybe it's the word choice. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #110
Now, now. I was told yesterday by a DUer that this is really just unfair to men because Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #5
. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #10
Us women-folk don't know nothin' Rorey Aug 2021 #13
Well, what was it, a dozen women? They don't ACTUALLY know if they were groped. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #19
Yep, back in the day they actually thought it was sort of a compliment Rorey Aug 2021 #30
Right? I told him what to do with himself, but someone else alerted and now it's gone, thank God. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #15
Shaking my head. MLAA Aug 2021 #12
And for good measure don't take a selfie with the guy you are accusing sexual harassment n/t DiamondShark Aug 2021 #92
Seriously? Someone here said that? Treefrog Aug 2021 #25
Yup. It felt like a throwback to the old MRA days. Scrivener7 Aug 2021 #27
Probably not treestar Aug 2021 #118
Somebody here on DU actually made that revolting, woman-dismissing statement? niyad Aug 2021 #46
I don't remember a time when it was OK for a random male to touch a woman's breast. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #9
+ a brazillion milestogo Aug 2021 #14
Oh see but you're listening to women. That's where the confusion is. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2021 #18
Males apparently have a different set of rules. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #23
It was never OK, but there often were no consequences Walleye Aug 2021 #20
Right, even if a woman reported the behavior, nothing would be done. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #24
Exactly. The consequences for the women are often worse than for the male perpetrator Walleye Aug 2021 #29
Yes it was humiliating to talk about it. And the woman would be blamed or called a liar. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #31
The only debate we ever had about this is whether it was morally correct to MaryMagdaline Aug 2021 #35
EXACTLY, that generational stuff is just pure bullshit 🙄 Raine Aug 2021 #70
I had one grandfather born in 1882 and one in 1893. Both knew better yes. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #101
They'd get away with it treestar Aug 2021 #125
Rules of conduct snowybirdie Aug 2021 #26
I am a New York State employee brooklynite Aug 2021 #28
Exactly. Plus he falsified documentation of his attendance at a sexual harrassment training. femmedem Aug 2021 #37
It was always wrong, but men used to get away with it. milestogo Aug 2021 #38
the lines were redrawn here at DU... Phentex Aug 2021 #47
But groping crossed the line, even back then LeftInTX Aug 2021 #53
Not that long ago I shared an office with 2 men who were good friends. milestogo Aug 2021 #57
Cuomo skipped sexual harassment training -- accuser says PoliticAverse Aug 2021 #43
Someone in my family used to work for him Johonny Aug 2021 #89
Yuppers. Compliance training is strong at all levels in NYS. lindysalsagal Aug 2021 #122
Simple rule for men in power.Treat your female colleagues as if they were your mother or your sister Walleye Aug 2021 #32
This is the problem BeerBarrelPolka Aug 2021 #41
Obviously. It depends on the intent. And don't think women can't tell what that is Walleye Aug 2021 #42
Do you sing love songs to her on the phone? Ask her if she's slept with older men? Phentex Aug 2021 #48
Read my post BeerBarrelPolka Aug 2021 #49
You see this as a problem. Those were your words. It's not. Phentex Aug 2021 #55
No BeerBarrelPolka Aug 2021 #59
Telling your mother she looks nice is different from telling that to a young woman who works for you yardwork Aug 2021 #102
Not Actually BeerBarrelPolka Aug 2021 #105
I'm so glad my mom didn't lose her pension after years Nixie Aug 2021 #106
Yep. BeerBarrelPolka Aug 2021 #107
But... but... neither one would want to sleep with me FBaggins Aug 2021 #58
👍 Walleye Aug 2021 #67
How is this going to work in the South? snort Aug 2021 #65
😆 Walleye Aug 2021 #66
Treat your female colleagues like your male colleagues. meadowlander Aug 2021 #95
Yes! Walleye Aug 2021 #100
He's an asshole. I always wondered why DU loved him so much. JanMichael Aug 2021 #34
He was the "anti-Trump" in an increasingly black and white world. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2021 #44
Yup that's exactly it and ironically Raine Aug 2021 #71
I agree. CentralMass Aug 2021 #51
How was he too conservative? Polybius Aug 2021 #64
I'm curious also. I don't know his record but he did a stellar job protecting NYC. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #76
He got thousands killed shoveling C-19 into nursing homes. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2021 #90
That's exactly right. BlueLucy Aug 2021 #91
He shoveled Covid into nursing homes?! 😶 live love laugh Aug 2021 #93
Yeah, required nursing homes to take Covid infected folks. Decoy of Fenris Aug 2021 #96
Republicans pushed this story. DOJ rejected it. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #99
TFG peddled HCQ for $$ and lied daily. live love laugh Aug 2021 #98
TFG killed 500,000. nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #111
I think he did deny that accusation. jrthin Aug 2021 #36
When you're a star they let you do that. Iggo Aug 2021 #50
Yeah and where's the outrage about TFG? nt live love laugh Aug 2021 #108
That statement is evidence. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #60
I am reminded of the short-lived sitcom by Normal Lear called All That Glitters Beringia Aug 2021 #63
I loved that show /nt tonedevil Aug 2021 #68
I thought he meant that the 'lines' were crossed by things he said and crass attitude. Nexus2 Aug 2021 #77
He broke the increased workplace harassment bill he signed ripcord Aug 2021 #78
Because he's a democratic governor and we're not supposed to criticize him ansible Aug 2021 #94
Where does that come from? treestar Aug 2021 #119
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