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pjpossum

(73 posts) Fri Aug 20, 2021, 12:00 AM Aug 2021

I just saw a story at another site that starts "Race-Faker Rachel Dolezal" [View all]

I am someone that truly believes that people should be free to express who they are, as long as someone is not being hurt. I have had friends from all walks of life & ages.
I would really like a rational discussion as to why, if Rachel Dolezal truly identifies as a person of color, that is so tabu. Yet, the same people that demonize her, would be horrified if trans people were (and often are) demonized for who they identify as.
I am not "supporting" or encouraging Ms. Dolezal. I am just trying to understand the logic/illogic in many people saying it's ok if you feel that you are (fill-in the blank), but not ok if you feel that you are (fill-in the blank).
If we truly believe that a person is who they identify with, why all of the anger?

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I just saw a story at another site that starts "Race-Faker Rachel Dolezal" [View all] pjpossum Aug 2021 OP

lol n/t leftstreet Aug 2021 #1

For the 3rd time in 2days I've seen posts that blm Aug 2021 #2

I'm not sure what stories you refer to. pjpossum Aug 2021 #4

My point was that perhaps we are seeing blm Aug 2021 #7

Thank you for clarifying. pjpossum Aug 2021 #10

It wasn't a 'post' at some obscure chatroom, it was an article on a mainstream website Celerity Aug 2021 #23

No, that's not what I saw. blm Aug 2021 #41

Yep ibegurpard Aug 2021 #47

✔️ blm Aug 2021 #52

It is an uncomfortable question treestar Aug 2021 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Aug 2021 #3

I never said that I was "concerned". pjpossum Aug 2021 #5

If you can't see the difference I can't help you. blogslug Aug 2021 #6

Just out of curiosity, what was that other site? We might be able to help if we knew Hekate Aug 2021 #8

Daily Beast. pjpossum Aug 2021 #11

Same same with religion? Christian fakers? keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #9

My belief is that their is NO one true faith. pjpossum Aug 2021 #13

People often believe the one that got to them first lame54 Aug 2021 #59

Well, race IS a social construct. We need to remember WE are the ones who ultimately decide how it ck4829 Aug 2021 #12

I like your response. pjpossum Aug 2021 #14

While that is true... Happy Hoosier Aug 2021 #29

I am actually trying to look past this particular case and understand pjpossum Aug 2021 #31

While that is true... Happy Hoosier Aug 2021 #43

The ancients were more tribal than racial. keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #15

What color/ethnicity was Jesus? It depends on whose wall his portrait hangs. keithbvadu2 Aug 2021 #16

People generally need to see a god or goddess that resembles them. Jesus and Mary whitened... Hekate Aug 2021 #19

The vast majority of Americans see Jews as white Mosby Aug 2021 #57

The "New World" view of race is a bit twisted. pjpossum Aug 2021 #17

"Cultural appropriation" (look it up) is something minorities often find very hurtful indeed... Hekate Aug 2021 #18

Thank you for your perspective, Hekate. pjpossum Aug 2021 #32

By the same token, Sur Zobra Aug 2021 #65

oh boy Dorian Gray Aug 2021 #20

Catfish-in-blackface Dolezal is a white privileged racial cosplaying POS Celerity Aug 2021 #21

Must say, she looks way better in photo on right womanofthehills Aug 2021 #39

She is NOT black, yet cosplayed to such an extreme level she was the head of the local NAACP Celerity Aug 2021 #76

she is not alone in her behavior, it is much more common janterry Aug 2021 #22

I agree with you. pjpossum Aug 2021 #33

She's nutty. betsuni Aug 2021 #24

Trashing Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #25

Lulz. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #26

Welcome to DU greenjar_01 Aug 2021 #27

I will trust that you're good faith and not a transphobe. Oneironaut Aug 2021 #28

I am in good faith. I completely understand that RD is a bad example. pjpossum Aug 2021 #30

Imo, if there was an actual "trans race" condition affecting hundreds of millions of people across Oneironaut Aug 2021 #69

I think that you misunderstood my reply. I am sorry if I wasn't clear. pjpossum Aug 2021 #70

Oh sorry - I was more talking about the "skin color dysphoria" part. Oneironaut Aug 2021 #71

No problem. This format can be difficult to get a point across pjpossum Aug 2021 #72

Of course race exists. JFC. Mosby Aug 2021 #58

racism is real janterry Aug 2021 #62

You didn't understand what I'm saying. Oneironaut Aug 2021 #68

New genetic science has informed the race debate. Mosby Aug 2021 #75

I rarely butt in around here, but this one sort of torques me off. ForgedCrank Aug 2021 #34

As I stated in other replies. My intent was NOT to make this about her. pjpossum Aug 2021 #35

My post was about personal identity. Not about her other actions. pjpossum Aug 2021 #40

Why are we allowing this transphobic nonsense here? ibegurpard Aug 2021 #36

She's in the news again? Treefrog Aug 2021 #37

I get your question generally put, and am also curious with the resentment backlash from others msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #38

Thank you SOOO much for your response. pjpossum Aug 2021 #42

And thank you for asking the question, for exactly the reasons you did. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #48

I live in Los Angeles. You must be Nor. Cal. pjpossum Aug 2021 #55

Yes, I live about an hour's drive north of San Francisco.. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #64

Yes, McCabe's has the shop in front. It's in Santa Monica. pjpossum Aug 2021 #67

indeed.. msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #73

I worked with Rachael Dolezal. BlueIdaho Aug 2021 #44

That was my take on her. Thanks for your perspective. shrike3 Aug 2021 #61

Playing blackface does not make you black n/t malaise Aug 2021 #45

Interesting website you patronize UnderThisLaw Aug 2021 #46

I don't know this poster or their motives, but people post crap from all kinds of websites here. Treefrog Aug 2021 #50

Oh, of course UnderThisLaw Aug 2021 #63

People of color do not get to choose Marrah_Goodman Aug 2021 #49

"get to?" treestar Aug 2021 #53

It is a privilege. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #56

If you look a part you will not be questioned treestar Aug 2021 #66

You are coming from a position of privilege to even make that statement. Ms. Toad Aug 2021 #74

Of course that's almost always true janterry Aug 2021 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Aug 2021 #60