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former9thward

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62. That is the most "ungermane" factor in whether SS shoud have parole.

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From the sane Kennedys [View all] bigtree Aug 2021 OP

Even the wise cannot see all ends. WheelWalker Aug 2021 #1

What is the wise course that the prescient amongst us should be seeking? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #5

Well, Gandalf, this little Gollum has been prevented from further murders by watchful elves... Hekate Aug 2021 #75

Sirhan has shown no remorse, pretends he doesn't remember the incident. Irish_Dem Aug 2021 #2

The same as any other murderer in CA who has no remorse. former9thward Aug 2021 #31

Because this one is different Leith Aug 2021 #40

Murder in the "heat of passion" is not murder. former9thward Aug 2021 #44

"No one"? The families of the dead remember & "complain" -- some attend every Parole Board mtng Hekate Aug 2021 #54

They would only be the same if they killed someone with same prominence and importance as RFK. honest.abe Aug 2021 #111

So if you are not "important" then it matters not if you are murdered. former9thward Aug 2021 #115

There are degrees or murder.. this one is beyond 1st degree. honest.abe Aug 2021 #121

In your view. former9thward Aug 2021 #122

Parole isn't automatic. honest.abe Aug 2021 #123

assassination isn't mere murder dsc Aug 2021 #116

You are wrong. former9thward Aug 2021 #118

Please give some links to proof of that claim, which you repeat throughout this thread.. Hekate Aug 2021 #131

You want me to link to the transcripts of every parole hearing in CA. former9thward Aug 2021 #136

Statistics. State report. Investigative reporting by the SacBee or LA Times. You know... Hekate Aug 2021 #138

I am a criminal attorney who practices in the real world. former9thward Aug 2021 #139

Easy solution. Life sentence with no parole for 1st degree murder. Devil Child Aug 2021 #124

According to WaPo, he is remorseful and has been eligible for release since 1975. intheflow Aug 2021 #55

I read that this time he did show remorse. If it was my parent that he killed Maraya1969 Aug 2021 #76

BS. "if it was my parent that he killed" rockfordfile Aug 2021 #93

Orwell said "Some ideas are so stupid only an intellectual could believe them." DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #3

Agreed. The little fckr got what he wanted: he changed the world. nt Hekate Aug 2021 #60

Perfect quote for this madness n/t Devil Child Aug 2021 #125

K&R spanone Aug 2021 #4

Sirhan Sirhan should never get out. Haggard Celine Aug 2021 #6

Indeed, when I think of liberalhistorian Aug 2021 #130

We are all still suffering from the damage he caused. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #153

I remember that morning mgardener Aug 2021 #7

So do I. The only reason I didn't know in real time was my transistor radio gave out... Hekate Aug 2021 #71

Me, too! ShazzieB Aug 2021 #91

I turned 18 in '71. Of course I voted, but was disappointed that... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #128

Being in NYC (and still so), and a HS Junior in '68, I was marched off to bed... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #127

I stand with them. Tomconroy Aug 2021 #8

So do I. Firmly with them. calimary Aug 2021 #23

I was totally shocked with the news. ashredux Aug 2021 #9

He killed a great man SCantiGOP Aug 2021 #11

Yes OverBurn Aug 2021 #84

RFK would not have received the nomination Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2021 #147

I do not agree. True Blue American Aug 2021 #149

That's your opinion SCantiGOP Aug 2021 #150

The only way Traildogbob Aug 2021 #10

I read somewhere else that this letter was not actually written by the Kennedy but instead by Escurumbele Aug 2021 #12

RFK had 9 children treestar Aug 2021 #17

I'm thinking RFK, Jr.'s cheese has taken a slide off his cracker! SunnyATT Aug 2021 #19

It has. Off the cracker, bounced on the chair, rolled onto the floor and under the refrigerator... NurseJackie Aug 2021 #27

LOL. secondwind Aug 2021 #65

Is he the one that's anti vax? BannonsLiver Aug 2021 #72

Yes. RFK, Jr. is an anti-vax idiot. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #78

He probably watches too much Ancient Aliens and Oliver Stone movies... LeftInTX Aug 2021 #80

Eleven children. H2O Man Aug 2021 #34

He had 11 kids. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #97

It appears to be on the Twitter page TNNurse Aug 2021 #26

Rory says right there in the tweet that it's a statement from her family. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #100

WTF? time for the names of the incompetents putting this forward bringthePaine Aug 2021 #13

Some people, like memories, are best kept locked away never NoMoreRepugs Aug 2021 #14

Thank you for this post..... Upthevibe Aug 2021 #15

Thank you for this. Those (inexplicably) supporting Sirhan's parole here keep citing RFK JR hlthe2b Aug 2021 #16

+1 moondust Aug 2021 #21

Just a correction, Rory is the youngest Kennedy, she was born 6 months after RFK's assassination. dflprincess Aug 2021 #119

Yes...I meant the youngest boy (Douglas)... hlthe2b Aug 2021 #120

That it was a Kennedy is irrelevant luv2fly Aug 2021 #18

Political assassination stillcool Aug 2021 #42

A human being... ONE human being luv2fly Aug 2021 #50

Political assassination is a special crime because it disrupts the course of government & replaces i Hekate Aug 2021 #74

+1 honest.abe Aug 2021 #112

He robbed rhe voters of the chance to vote for the candidate of their choice DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #85

nice bedtime story stillcool Aug 2021 #109

Bobby WAS very relevant. Boomerproud Aug 2021 #89

You made my other point, thanks luv2fly Aug 2021 #90

IMO: He's why we Nixon, Raygun, Bush, Bush & TFG. Never less SS out. rickyhall Aug 2021 #20

Agreement marieo1 Aug 2021 #22

I think whether he is a threat is irrelevant. TNNurse Aug 2021 #24

Mercy nvme Aug 2021 #25

We spared his life...he has no rights any longer. It was a cold blooded murder in plain site. ashredux Aug 2021 #28

So we should have no parole? former9thward Aug 2021 #35

We currently have people in jail who aren't able to be paroled. A real life sentence. ashredux Aug 2021 #36

Sirhan is not in that category. former9thward Aug 2021 #37

How old are you? Were you around when he got shot? Do you understand what it meant to our nation? ashredux Aug 2021 #38

None of those things are factors in parole. former9thward Aug 2021 #41

One, you did not answer my question. How old are you? ashredux Aug 2021 #45

I was alive when RFK was shot and I agree with the poster you're replying to. intheflow Aug 2021 #63

Fair justice is keeping him in prison. ashredux Aug 2021 #66

First of all, Charles Manson is dead, he died in 2017. intheflow Aug 2021 #70

This is really useless. He's not getting out of prison. ashredux Aug 2021 #73

When it had/has incalculable ripple effects for the USA, and the World - yes electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #129

Granting parole is discretionary Mysterian Aug 2021 #48

And they have been in this case. former9thward Aug 2021 #61

What is your evidence that anyone objects for political reasons? Mysterian Aug 2021 #64

I guess you have not read the posts. former9thward Aug 2021 #67

Sirhan assassinated the leading candidate for President of the USA Mysterian Aug 2021 #99

Parole in the U.S. has nothing to do with those circumstances, former9thward Aug 2021 #114

You really don't know what you're posting about Mysterian Aug 2021 #117

How was RFK going to get the nomination? Cuthbert Allgood Aug 2021 #148

Humphrey did not have the nomination locked up Mysterian Aug 2021 #152

It was a political crime with huge political ramifications. ShazzieB Aug 2021 #102

The Kennedy Children are objecting for political reasons? I doubt that. True Blue American Aug 2021 #134

Two supported it. former9thward Aug 2021 #137

I think it is germane to this discussion. How old were you on that night? Hekate Aug 2021 #59

That is the most "ungermane" factor in whether SS shoud have parole. former9thward Aug 2021 #62

Irrelevant. ashredux Aug 2021 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author ashredux Aug 2021 #29

How old were you on that night? Tell me. Hekate Aug 2021 #57

It's very interesting they don't want to answer your question, isn't it? ShazzieB Aug 2021 #101

Indeed. It's not like we're holding a petty grudge; we watched the course of history change Hekate Aug 2021 #110

Outside of the last 4 years that was the worst time True Blue American Aug 2021 #135

Certainly one of my worst! electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #146

It was suppose to be the death penalty. So no the pos doesn't get out. You're just trolling rockfordfile Aug 2021 #96

That's exactly my feeling radical noodle Aug 2021 #126

Not trolling anyone nvme Aug 2021 #140

If he had not killed a Kennedy left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #30

Obviously, I fully agree. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #33

It wasn't just a Kennedy, it was most likely he would've been the next President of the United State ashredux Aug 2021 #46

"he would've been the next President" left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #56

Good Lord man just go away ashredux Aug 2021 #58

Please, no personal attacks left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #69

There could well be numerous reasons to not grant Sirhan Sirhan parole. BobTheSubgenius Aug 2021 #32

I agree with the family. gordianot Aug 2021 #39

He should be treated exactly like every other parolee candidate. Jon King Aug 2021 #43

Exactly right luv2fly Aug 2021 #51

I am sadly disappointed In so many on this thread ashredux Aug 2021 #49

Interesting. H2O Man Aug 2021 #52

I don't think Robert Jr.'s reasoning is sane bigtree Aug 2021 #77

That reasoning H2O Man Aug 2021 #88

the argument is not that Sirhan was innocent iemanja Aug 2021 #105

I agree. H2O Man Aug 2021 #108

I see no good reason for the guy to ever leave prison. n/t MrModerate Aug 2021 #53

Hopefully Newsom will put the kibosh on the parole gulliver Aug 2021 #68

Nine Things You Probably Didn't Know About Parole left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #79

Sirhan was sentenced under a different law (rules) than now.... LeftInTX Aug 2021 #81

apples and oranges n/t left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #94

Your the one introducing oranges iemanja Aug 2021 #104

Nah left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #107

Sirhan Sirhan was sentenced to death iemanja Aug 2021 #86

During the initial sentencing the Kennedys asked for life imprisonment, not the death penalty DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2021 #92

And now he's being paroled from that life sentence n/t left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #95

which evidently pleases you iemanja Aug 2021 #103

Whatever left-of-center2012 Aug 2021 #106

it depends on if you see prison as protecting the public or revenge Hamlette Aug 2021 #82

It's also whether you should protect the public from copycats who might be deterred pnwmom Aug 2021 #133

If you believe in deterrence, 53 years behind bars ought to be enough. Hamlette Aug 2021 #141

For a crime that serious, life in prison without parole is appropriate. pnwmom Aug 2021 #142

based on the fact it was RFK and not John Doe? Hamlette Aug 2021 #143

Based on the fact that he was a candidate running for US President. pnwmom Aug 2021 #144

Absolutely! The alternate timelines SF authors could write... electric_blue68 Aug 2021 #145

point taken Hamlette Aug 2021 #151

Political Assassination is a different kind of murder, for it kills the future of a nation. ... Hekate Aug 2021 #83

The children of RFK VGNonly Aug 2021 #87

No. He stays in jail. Letting him out rewards him for the murder. rockfordfile Aug 2021 #98

I have the feeling that Newsom will say, "No" BigmanPigman Aug 2021 #113

A lot of talk in this thread about Sirhan2 and Kennedys and assassination, but a big question RockRaven Aug 2021 #132