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efhmc

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56. I think the older Vietnam era chickenhawks are the worse.
Fri Oct 19, 2012, 01:05 AM
Oct 2012

They were able through pull and deferments to avoid the draft. But many of the men conscripted then were those who had no way to get out of the draft through educational or other means:

PWWII period: (1948 thru 1976*)

1-A Available for military service
1-AM Medical specialist available for military service
1-A-O Conscientious objector available for noncombatant
military service
1-A-OM Medical specialist conscientious objector available
for noncombatant military service
1-C Member of the Armed Forces of the United States, the
Coast and Geodetic Survey, or the Public Health Service
(Enl)-enlisted; (Ind)-Inducted; (Dis)-discharged
1-D Member of a Reserve component or student taking military
training
**1-H Registrant not currently subject to processing for
induction or alternate service
1-O Conscientious objector available for civilian work
contributing to the national health, safety, or interest
1-OM Medical specialist conscientious objector available for
civilian work contributing to the national health,
safety, or interest
1-S Student deferred by statute: (H)-high school; (C)-college
1-W Conscientious objector performing civilian work in the
national health, safety, or interest (Rel)-released
***1-Y Registrant qualified for service only in time of war
or national emergency
2-A Registrant deferred because of civilian occupation
(except agriculture)
2-AM Medical specialist deferred because of critical
community need involving patient care
2-C Registrant deferred because of agricultural occupation
2-D Registrant deferred because of study in preparation
for the ministry
2-M Registrant deferred for medical study
2-S Registrant deferred because of activity in study
3-A Registrant with a child or children; or registrant
deferred by reason of extreme hardship to dependents
4-A Registrant who has completed service; or sole surviving son
4-B Official deferred by law
4-C Alien
4-D Minister of religion or divinity student
4-E Conscientious objector opposed to both combatant and
noncombatant training and service
4-F Registrant not qualified for military service
4-FM Medical specialist not qualified for military service
4-G Sole surviving son
4-W Conscientious objector who has completed civilian
alternate service
5-A Registrant over the age of liability for military service

Was romney classified as a 4d?



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seriously quinnox Oct 2012 #1
They have countless generation of chicken hawks who have not served. efhmc Oct 2012 #7
it would have been nice if you had included that in the OP quinnox Oct 2012 #9
Did not mean to imply that at all. I am a female and a pacifist but it makes efhmc Oct 2012 #15
understood, when you clarified your point it made it clear n/t quinnox Oct 2012 #17
I got your point from jump, however it could use some clarification for newbs and such. Zalatix Oct 2012 #86
You are correct. Wasn't clear. efhmc Oct 2012 #87
I know of none riverwalker Oct 2012 #79
It's disgusting because Risen Demon Oct 2012 #2
Exactly TampaKeeper Oct 2012 #5
That is the difference. I think war is a stupid way to settle anything but efhmc Oct 2012 #8
Yes, this is the issue. (nt) enough Oct 2012 #71
I have only a couple of family members who served... BanzaiBonnie Oct 2012 #3
Two men in my family in Vietnam and neither have ever been the same. efhmc Oct 2012 #11
My dad and all my uncles served in WW2. Eight of them. speedoo Oct 2012 #4
Romney's great-great-grandfather was a US army deserter Brother Buzz Oct 2012 #6
Now that's in depth research. efhmc Oct 2012 #22
My little brother and I served together in Vietnam pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #10
I can't even begin to understand what that must feel like. Glad you are still efhmc Oct 2012 #12
What it was like... pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #41
Can't seem to write anything that would ever make any difference here. efhmc Oct 2012 #43
Umm, I can't remember shit, but . . . Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #65
We lost my little brother 2 years ago pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #66
Oh. Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #68
The Obama family have been deaniac21 Oct 2012 #13
And me, an unabashed liberal Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #14
Texas ranch woman here. All hat and no cattle. efhmc Oct 2012 #19
Thanks for the correction Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #74
You know what's even stranger, Mitt Romney has not come to Fort Bragg one time... nc4bo Oct 2012 #16
Isn't the military suppose to be nonpartisan? efhmc Oct 2012 #21
I "think" Mccain came here.... nc4bo Oct 2012 #23
Because they are not corporation and therefore not people. efhmc Oct 2012 #25
No one is calling him out on it at all. nc4bo Oct 2012 #29
Active support of war + multiple deferments = CHICKENHAWK ... See pic here Bozita Oct 2012 #18
Where did that picture come from? efhmc Oct 2012 #20
pic was taken at Stanford U. Bozita Oct 2012 #26
romney supported the vietnam war....as he went to france....chickenhawk spanone Oct 2012 #27
Linky... Bozita Oct 2012 #36
That pic needs to be in a commercial...where were you Tribetime Oct 2012 #31
Here's another right out of the newspaper... Bozita Oct 2012 #34
Wow, what a piece of work. Let others be killed but I'm going to France. efhmc Oct 2012 #40
I know of no one. Whether by choice or not. I do not know anyone efhmc Oct 2012 #38
hey, are multiple wives a deferment? spanone Oct 2012 #24
Getting married and having children kept many eligible efhmc Oct 2012 #30
Romney's father was managing director of the Automotive Council for War Production in WWII Spider Jerusalem Oct 2012 #28
Maybe but what about "I served the mormon church in France" Romney and efhmc Oct 2012 #33
That's probably how the Romney family learned to make money from the wars. Major Hogwash Oct 2012 #67
No, no it's not. TransitJohn Oct 2012 #32
Would agree if he were not such a bomb Iran chickenhawk!! efhmc Oct 2012 #35
I thought I understood what a chickenhawk was, but after reading this thread, I'm not so sure. hughee99 Oct 2012 #37
See title line of reply #18 Bozita Oct 2012 #39
What is "active support" for war? hughee99 Oct 2012 #45
Is not just not serving but actively avoiding serving. efhmc Oct 2012 #42
So chickenhawks are a dying breed then? hughee99 Oct 2012 #44
Nope, pushing war without being willing to serve makes all 5 romney efhmc Oct 2012 #46
I'm not trying to be obtuse. hughee99 Oct 2012 #48
"willing to serve" seems to be the key here. I do not see any of these efhmc Oct 2012 #50
No, I certainly understand what you're getting at, hughee99 Oct 2012 #54
I understand your differentiation, but even if we had a draft, those folks efhmc Oct 2012 #57
I think the likely would, but no one can say for sure. n/t hughee99 Oct 2012 #60
About Mitt, we know for sure nt pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #70
C'mon brush Oct 2012 #78
You do wonder at his acumen but I think it is his arrogant thinking that he efhmc Oct 2012 #81
Good point brush Oct 2012 #84
A weathervane pointing which every way works for him at the moment. efhmc Oct 2012 #85
Perhaps time and the ending of the draft has created 2 classes of chickenhawls. Bozita Oct 2012 #51
I like that. Sort of clears things up a little for me. hughee99 Oct 2012 #53
I think the older Vietnam era chickenhawks are the worse. efhmc Oct 2012 #56
What's so hard to understand? pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #52
Would someone who voted to authorize military action hughee99 Oct 2012 #55
Look at it this way... pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #58
Well, no one has control over whether their children join or not, hughee99 Oct 2012 #59
Giving up trying to get you to understand this concept. These people (chickenhawks)are very willing efhmc Oct 2012 #61
I don't disagree that Mittens is a chickenhawk, hughee99 Oct 2012 #63
'None so blind as those who will not see' pinboy3niner Oct 2012 #62
It has been suggested by others (not by you) hughee99 Oct 2012 #89
Five sons in a pro-war family, and none serve. Well I hope veterans are made aware of this. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #47
Nothing seems to penetrate when it comes to many vets. They think Dems efhmc Oct 2012 #49
No what is disgusting is that they want war without marlakay Oct 2012 #64
The Romney family has been all about procreating and getting filthy rich. flyguyjake Oct 2012 #69
That attitude has absolutely nothing to do with following the teachings of Christ and efhmc Oct 2012 #73
According to Queen Ann they served two years B Calm Oct 2012 #72
Yes, they had to pedal the area and as mormons couldn't even stop for wine. efhmc Oct 2012 #75
Hard work pedaling the French Riviera B Calm Oct 2012 #93
oh bullshit. cali Oct 2012 #76
Please let me clarify. As I said in post 15, I am a pacifist. It is the efhmc Oct 2012 #80
My daughter just joined the Air National Guard HockeyMom Oct 2012 #77
You must be very proud of them. I wish them success and safety. efhmc Oct 2012 #83
Remember what he said about his sons when asked about them serving Robyn66 Oct 2012 #82
Amazingly arrogant. efhmc Oct 2012 #88
Your families military service is irrelevant to you. DesMoinesDem Oct 2012 #90
Talking about the war mongering mitt and family. efhmc Oct 2012 #91
Sorry, but that doesn't change the fact that your family's military service is irrelevant to you. DesMoinesDem Oct 2012 #92
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