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Slammer

(714 posts)
45. emoluments
Mon Aug 30, 2021, 12:54 PM
Aug 2021

During the first two weeks of the Trump administration, he took a trip and stayed at one of his properties.

His Secret Service detail followed him, of course.

And Trump rented rooms at his resort to his Secret Service detail. And received a check from the government for it.

That's a direct violation of the Constitution. And if we had Senators in both parties who cared about the Constitution and the rule of law, Trump would have been up for impeachment immediately after taking office.

Even if Trump had rented the rooms at cost or at a loss, which he didn't, he'd still be in violation of the emoluments clause. A president can't sell things to the government. The government can't buy things from a president.

Trump can't even try to argue that this was some sort of an "incidental expense by the government which would have happened" anyway since Trump was the one who chose to stay at his own property then chose to charge the Secret Service for following him there.

It took two years for the Washington Post to confirm that the government cut a check to Trump. But it was obvious that Trump did it because that's what he'd been doing during the campaign after he was given Secret Service protection: treating their nightly hotel expenses like a government-funded machine which put money in his own pocket. (That was legal as a presidential candidate, though questionable ethically. Presidential candidates can take non-salary money from the government in business transactions.)

It was one of those open secrets in Washington that Trump continued doing selling hotel rooms to his Secret Service detail after he took office, the point in time when doing that became a violation of the Constitution.

Everyone knew it was happening repeatedly but no one wanted to admit it in public. And no one wanted to do anything about it. Not Republicans, not Democrats, and not potential whistleblowers in the Secret Service or various government accounting departments.

I screamed bloody murder about it from the first time it happened, not that it did any good....

I can not recommed this post kacekwl Aug 2021 #1
My Republican sister just told me that she RicROC Aug 2021 #74
What hundreds here have been saying for 6 or 7 KPN Aug 2021 #2
They're letting the Jan 6th terrorists off with a slap on the wrist and a Cancun vacation. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #18
Even a federal judge in DC has raised the issue Solomon Aug 2021 #72
K&R onecaliberal Aug 2021 #3
K&R spanone Aug 2021 #4
Thanks for posting this. Biden also needs to get rid of Christopher Wray, get a real FBI director. JudyM Aug 2021 #5
So Agree! Rebl2 Aug 2021 #6
This is going to be one of those, "I loved them before they went commercial" bullwinkle428 Aug 2021 #13
Absolutely. Ligyron Aug 2021 #24
Agreed. Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #78
k and r Champp Aug 2021 #7
Finally, someone brings up the Raffensperger call. CrispyQ Aug 2021 #8
I have given up all hope of him ever facing any accountability. Ever. SoonerPride Aug 2021 #61
It is reeaally hard not to think otherwise at this point. Even a little. I see no justice and even Evolve Dammit Aug 2021 #79
If the Jan 6 perpetrators are not brought to bear the weight of their crimes overleft Aug 2021 #9
Without prosecution of the perpe-traitors, Jan. 6th becomes a dress rehearsal. lastlib Aug 2021 #39
I hear, the "next time", is coming in the near future. fwvinson Aug 2021 #42
There won't need to be one. It will all be done electorally, by the R legislatures. Crunchy Frog Aug 2021 #49
I imagine they want to make absolutely sure it's a lock before moving forward Native Aug 2021 #10
Absolutely correct, our Justice System always goes after the ring leaders last. KS Toronado Aug 2021 #16
We "hope" in Vain... the writing has been on the wall for sometime msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #65
And when the ringleader is running in 2024. Captain Zero Aug 2021 #69
I see Nancy Pelosi is going after Qrump with her Jan 6th select committee. KS Toronado Aug 2021 #71
As our friend Glen Kirschner frequently reminds us "justice matters" and it takes time PortTack Aug 2021 #34
You have a better imagination than I do. I hope you're right. nt Crunchy Frog Aug 2021 #50
11,780 swimboy Aug 2021 #11
Garland has until the end of 2024 to complete any investigation and prosecution of Trump Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #12
You think if we lose the midterm elections kacekwl Aug 2021 #52
They can stop congressional investigations, but not DOJ Fiendish Thingy Aug 2021 #59
Not even a subpoena Tiger8 Aug 2021 #14
Pretty galling to be lectured about unity without justice Ponietz Aug 2021 #75
We are either going to face the consequences of holding Trump accountable hadEnuf Aug 2021 #15
+1000 smirkymonkey Aug 2021 #51
...and so is our democracy. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #17
Rule of law is like taxes Glaisne Aug 2021 #19
+1000. Enough talk---DO SOMETHING about trump, and do it NOW. (nt) Paladin Aug 2021 #20
He is absolutely right. Snackshack Aug 2021 #21
Fully agree with this and more crimes, but... but... Justice matters. Aug 2021 #27
emoluments Slammer Aug 2021 #45
Correct. Snackshack Aug 2021 #47
moot Slammer Aug 2021 #54
From CNN Snackshack Aug 2021 #56
que the atty's here that say: "it's all good. it just takes time, just be patient and stop all the msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #22
No kidding. We know that, and yet they'll be along every time FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #35
Even the Insurrectionists who do face charges, are given light sentences msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #41
And allowed to go on vacation. CrispyQ Aug 2021 #53
Yep. Snackshack Aug 2021 #48
well it is true treestar Aug 2021 #57
i know legal matters in court takes time msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #63
Prosecutor usually make sure they have the evidence treestar Aug 2021 #64
Have you heard of the Mueller Report? Sewa Aug 2021 #66
Just a report treestar Aug 2021 #82
Job performances and judicial objectives, I would suggest are distinctively different matters msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #77
It is that complicated treestar Aug 2021 #83
definitely true. way too much to expect from a small district office msfiddlestix Aug 2021 #84
Since truth is no longer a criteria for justice... Thunderbeast Aug 2021 #23
I agree with Professor Tribe. kentuck Aug 2021 #25
There has to be success in nailing Trump. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #26
"Don't do it" is also a failure. JHB Aug 2021 #38
Oh yeah. twodogsbarking Aug 2021 #55
There won't be riots or civil war. Jon King Aug 2021 #28
totally agree..... bahboo Aug 2021 #40
We have a winner! world wide wally Aug 2021 #81
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Aug 2021 #29
Let me remind you all of something ScratchCat Aug 2021 #30
No healing until justice is done. ffr Aug 2021 #31
Mr. President, the American people want to know, are you as pissed off Hotler Aug 2021 #32
Yes. I compare it to the Church's seeming reluctance to fully pursue the child molesters Peregrine Took Aug 2021 #33
That is all true. Yes, it takes time to get an airtight case FoxNewsSucks Aug 2021 #36
Trump is basically a mob boss... would bet that he is not on record of telling anyone to do anything Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #37
If they want a "civil war" then I'll get my ammo ready. fwvinson Aug 2021 #43
So we have a crisis of Courage? Eyeball_Kid Aug 2021 #44
This goes all the way back cannabis_flower Aug 2021 #46
"to me" that is compelling proof treestar Aug 2021 #58
Laurence Tribe speaks truth and always has Mr. Ected Aug 2021 #60
I agree rockfordfile Aug 2021 #62
. Takket Aug 2021 #67
K&R Blue Owl Aug 2021 #68
Yes BSdetect Aug 2021 #70
Justice delayed is justice denied intrepidity Aug 2021 #73
No offense Mr. Tribe OldBaldy1701E Aug 2021 #76
Kicking... nt Hotler Aug 2021 #80
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