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EndlessWire

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Tue Aug 31, 2021, 02:21 PM Aug 2021

Biden is getting crucified [View all]

by many different sources. the latest thing I have read is that families of the dead marines feel that he was disrespectful when receiving their caskets back home. Apparently, he looked at his watch several times. Apparently, he talked about his own son. Apparently, they don't think that their children's sacrifice had to happen.

I think you can't win for losing here. Their kids are dead. They're in some phase of the grieving process. But, I would have to say, 1) we don't know why he looked at his watch. Maybe it was set to Kabul time. Maybe he was stressed because he had a meeting with someone important. Maybe he was waiting for news of something. We just don't know. He's the President. 2) What he has in common with the parents is his own military kid. Is it really so bad that he mentioned this connection to a parent? It only indicates that he understands what they might be feeling. 3) Burn in hell, Trump. There never was going to be a good outcome after he effed it up. Less was said about the Kurds who got royally shafted, because the news media didn't care to make an issue of it. Who cares about Kurdish allies getting murdered when Erdogan is your buddy? But, let Joe have to come along and clean up your mess, and let's kick him to the curb. Joe didn't let 5,000 maniacal prisoners out of jail. Trump did. Joe didn't know that the Afghan army would cut and run. He didn't know that the Afghan president would disappear into a neighboring country, and that the government would dissolve. Instead, he did the best he could and did a major airlift, along with our allies, and tried to get everyone out. And, after the attack, he kept firm to the objective and resisted temptation.

I am pro Biden. I am an armchair warrior like all the rest. But, I'd have to say, that I take a dim view of current soldiers opening their yaps and criticizing Biden's choices behind his back. They are not free to do this. We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. I do not think that Biden is a coward, nor stupid. Character counts. I think there were no good choices here. I would have processed papers out of country, but other than that, the situation sucked big time.

The governments in the ME are not our friends. The people can be, but let China get it's ass kicked by the Taliban now. It's their turn. Twenty years and a trillion dollars, and the Afghan army lays down its weapons and quits. The Taliban are going to show their intent and character now. I feel bad for the people, but they should have fought for their country.

Nothing the main stream media says will change my mind about Joe. So, now we have to hear about his being "disrespectful" to fallen soldiers. Hell, he came to receive them, along with the First Lady. At least he didn't mean mouth them like Trump did, or refuse to go because of weather, like Trump did.

I'll cut the parents a lot of slack. But, everyone else can go to hell.


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Biden is getting crucified [View all] EndlessWire Aug 2021 OP
don't agree NJCher Aug 2021 #1
The Hill is right-wing rockfordfile Aug 2021 #21
all the more important NJCher Aug 2021 #33
exactly... yobrault1 Aug 2021 #46
Indeed. At least they're pointing that out. calimary Aug 2021 #60
Some writers are right wing some are not, just like Politico Bev54 Aug 2021 #55
The sensible voices like The Atlantic are speaking up for Biden onetexan Aug 2021 #49
I'm with you, cilla4progress Aug 2021 #68
Biden would never disrespect the families of fallen soldiers Moebym Aug 2021 #2
+1000 Anybody claiming that he disrespected these families is lying. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #20
one of the fathers, was on hannity's show blabbing about Joe talking too much about his own son..... a kennedy Aug 2021 #36
Too stupid (or stubborn) to recognize that's how Biden expresses his understanding. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #43
Or, too right wing. GoodRaisin Aug 2021 #71
Exactly. lagomorph777 Sep 2021 #82
If he was on Hannity's show, I figure the odds are high that he was front-loaded... JHB Aug 2021 #73
The fact that those family members went running to Hannity, and not GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #3
Quite true that whoever has negative things to say treestar Aug 2021 #24
Did they go to Hannity or did he find out who the two or three Trumpies were among them lees1975 Aug 2021 #31
Most likely Hannity sought them out. GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #37
That is what I was thinking. Funny they only showed up on FOX. Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #41
I would think people MuseRider Aug 2021 #4
In fact, he was PISSED when he read that article from The Atlantic Moebym Aug 2021 #7
He will be fine. I suspect the thirteen and Polly Hennessey Aug 2021 #5
Most Americans have the attention span of a gnat Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #39
Politically, Biden's brilliance shows Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #6
Absolutely correct. lagomorph777 Aug 2021 #22
Our military exited Vietnam in Jan. 1973 when Nixon was president. former9thward Aug 2021 #44
So you are saying we had zero military personnel Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #56
Then by that definition we have military operations in most countries of the world. former9thward Aug 2021 #61
Of course we do. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #63
Sounds Like That Is Right Up There With Him Having A Stroke Me. Aug 2021 #8
It is, the right wing always pushes the same talking points JI7 Aug 2021 #9
everybody on the internet needs to start useing ad blocker 's & starve the media ! monkeyman1 Aug 2021 #57
There is a snapshot of him looking at his watch. Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #12
I'm hearing that it was actually his deceased son's rosary, which was around his wrist. GoCubsGo Aug 2021 #19
Surprized Faux didn't say his suit and tie weren't black enough. sarge43 Aug 2021 #45
They Haven't Had Enough Time OR Didn't Think About It Yet? Me. Aug 2021 #70
He was looking at his watch. former9thward Aug 2021 #50
They Are Already Referencing Bush Me. Aug 2021 #78
This message was self-deleted by its author Mr.Bill Aug 2021 #64
I watched the whole thing. I didn't see that. Ray Bruns Aug 2021 #42
The photos are all over Social media being used big time by Republicans womanofthehills Aug 2021 #76
Oh wow did he call them suckers and losers Fullduplexxx Aug 2021 #10
The important thing is that the majority of America wanted OUT and he got us out. budkin Aug 2021 #11
He did the right thing in a situation that was always going to be spun negatively by some karynnj Aug 2021 #13
I find it disgusting that the parents are using their kids deaths USAFRetired_Liberal Aug 2021 #14
+1. They are Trump cultists. dalton99a Aug 2021 #15
How vile is it that Trumpers use the death of their own children to try to make political points... Thomas Hurt Aug 2021 #16
Yep USAFRetired_Liberal Aug 2021 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author moondust Aug 2021 #17
Watching the arrival of the soldiers yesterday, I did see him look at his watch Fla Dem Aug 2021 #23
Was he wearing a tan suit? lpbk2713 Aug 2021 #25
Exactly! mountain grammy Aug 2021 #28
And perhaps they were just angry about losing their children. Biophilic Aug 2021 #26
Grief really screws with a person's mind Moebym Aug 2021 #38
My guess is these parents were big time MAGAs all along. Jon King Aug 2021 #27
Yep, I'd put money on that. mountain grammy Aug 2021 #29
Trump undermined the Afghan government and army by negotiating an exit with the Taliban lees1975 Aug 2021 #30
And left the Taliban as strong as they were on 9/11. AngryOldDem Aug 2021 #40
And Trump hid when faced with the same situation. hadEnuf Aug 2021 #32
I agree wildman76 Aug 2021 #34
Lotta folks turned on to Jesus after he was crucified. elevator Aug 2021 #35
This will all be forgotten in a few weeks except for the doc03 Aug 2021 #47
This will all be forgotten in a few weeks except for the doc03 Aug 2021 #48
I don't know where you get your information, but Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #51
Settle down. EndlessWire Aug 2021 #75
LOL Ferrets are Cool Aug 2021 #81
Let the right-wing shitheads spew all they want. Paladin Aug 2021 #52
re: TFG -- How many Big Macs does he have to eat to have bad things happen to his body? LastLiberal in PalmSprings Aug 2021 #53
This crap is all over MFM008 Aug 2021 #54
Does ANYONE seriously think the twice-impeached pussy grabber would have done better? Hulk Aug 2021 #58
really? go figure.... Locrian Aug 2021 #59
it's the nature of the presidency RussBLib Aug 2021 #62
I read he didn't look at his watch, hurple Aug 2021 #65
He looked at it after the ceremony. This entire thread by @ParkerMolloy is excellent Arazi Aug 2021 #67
That makes much more sense. Thank you! crickets Aug 2021 #74
I'm Now Thinking It Was Beau's Watch & He Was Looking At It In Memory At Such A Solemn Moment Me. Aug 2021 #79
Your a bit more generous than I. jaxexpat Aug 2021 #66
I've seen a lot of people grieving. EndlessWire Aug 2021 #77
Biden has been handed pinkstarburst Aug 2021 #69
When ... LenaBaby61 Aug 2021 #72
President Biden did bdamomma Aug 2021 #80
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