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Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. Rofl... well ain't that a twist & a half.
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:06 PM
Aug 2021
"It's not really fair to label all progressives with your broad brush."

Never said I was. In fact I cited example(s) of great progressives like Paul Wellstone, who not only talked the progressive talk but had a heck of a congressional ranking to prove he lived the title.

In fact, recalling Sierra Blanca, it was Sen Wellstone who stood up for the poorest Tx community against toxic nuke dumping on their community. When they had no voice at all, it was Wellstone who stood in the Senate & gave them one. He succeeded & thanks to the embodiment of all his progressive beliefs it was one Senator against the mighty corporate nuke dumping in the State of Tx.

Wellstone stood up for the poorest Latino people, right there on the Senate floor, against Senator Bernie Sanders who fought him so his State of VT could dump thir nuke waste on that Latino community, by the poweres of corporate friendly Texas.

Right.
So as far as broadbrushing goes, its odd how some can claim to be something they aren't always, or just sometimes, or maybe it depends on the beneficiary.

To say Biden is not progressive is a flat out lie.
Thing is. Biden has decades of proof where he was moderate, centrist, left leaning or progressive. He'll be the 1st to state the fact that he is all the above. But more than anything he is a Democrat.

The one thing he is not, other than a republican ideologue, is a populist for populist sake.

He has no problem seperating the difference between the two.
His policies are progressive, but he's certainly way beyond being just a trendy populist.



When he was in the Senate... LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #1
Indeed. He is to the left of most. BlueLucy Aug 2021 #3
I'm happy with him. He has a lot on his plate to deal with. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #4
Dear "Progressives". Knock it off with the divisive useless high school group labels. 🙄 Budi Aug 2021 #2
Yes...knock it off Deuxcents Aug 2021 #5
And not everyone in that tent is alway one or the other every day, every policy need. Budi Aug 2021 #6
You cannot call yourself a Progressive if you don't make progress. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #7
When your identity is reduced to a social media hastag & a millon+ $$ book deal.... Budi Aug 2021 #8
+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #18
Who are you complaining about? luv2fly Aug 2021 #10
People that claim to be one thing but whose own record says another story. Budi Aug 2021 #12
As you know, one person does not make all luv2fly Aug 2021 #13
Rofl... well ain't that a twist & a half. Budi Aug 2021 #21
+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #30
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #36
Brava, Budi!! Cha Aug 2021 #56
. . . niyad Aug 2021 #38
TY for this, Budi! Cha Aug 2021 #55
People are often mixed bags... Caliman73 Aug 2021 #9
Thank you for this BlueLucy Aug 2021 #15
Carter was pragmatic too. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #19
Carter was so moderate that the progressives primaried him when he was up forr reelotion. cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #41
Carter was on the right of the Democratic Party when he was elected iemanja Aug 2021 #50
Insider vs Outsider Nasruddin Aug 2021 #29
Talk about exceeding expectations! Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #34
Carter was a moderate when he held office. He changed over the yesrs. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #11
K & R Thank You! Budi Aug 2021 #14
Yes it is! BlueLucy Aug 2021 #17
Thank you . nt BlueLucy Aug 2021 #16
He has exceeded all my expectations mcar Aug 2021 #20
Your claim to fame is a BFD!! When you know the history of Scranton people, you know Joe. Budi Aug 2021 #22
True story, Budi - my mother babysat him mcar Aug 2021 #23
That is such a cool lifestory. Of all the people to be old family neighbors with. The Bidens!!! Budi Aug 2021 #25
Wait, I though Obama was the most progressive zipplewrath Aug 2021 #24
But still, he's not 'progressive' enough!! Budi Aug 2021 #27
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #32
Who? zipplewrath Aug 2021 #40
It just shows how sadly they lag behind the times. betsuni Aug 2021 #26
What is this a bash progressives thread? Rizen Aug 2021 #28
+1 Celerity Aug 2021 #33
Manchin & Sinema didn't vote NO on funding the Senate Afghan assistance bill Budi Aug 2021 #49
There is one every couple of days Bettie Sep 2021 #59
Biden rocks! Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #31
Maybe the Progressive "gatekeepers" can clear something up for me. Has the term "Progressive" been Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #35
Not JFK zipplewrath Aug 2021 #42
So now there's been a jump from Forward Moving to "radical leftists" ? nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #45
K & R Budi Aug 2021 #52
I guess it is what it is, and that's that. Go Dems ! nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #54
Radical leftists iemanja Aug 2021 #51
Honestly if you go by blind legislative proposals cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #43
It's been redefined, means "anti-establishment": the moral, pure vs corrupt immoral establishment. betsuni Aug 2021 #44
There is no such thing as "moral purity", in politics, governance, or anything else. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #47
But that's how populism works. Lots of evil enemies who will stop at nothing to defeat betsuni Aug 2021 #48
So? DownriverDem Aug 2021 #37
Pretty much how I see things these days. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #46
The 2020 electionresults in the Congress are educating empedocles Sep 2021 #57
The Biden haters I've encountered on Twitter can't let go. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #39
This sort of conversation irritates the Democrat in me. jaxexpat Sep 2021 #58
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