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Nasruddin

(741 posts)
29. Insider vs Outsider
Tue Aug 31, 2021, 08:32 PM
Aug 2021

Joe Biden was already in DC as Delaware senator when Jimmy Carter was elected. He's been there in the Senate and as VP most of his life.

Jimmy Carter ran, and was, an outsider to the federal government. He had been a Georgia governor and office holder earlier but he had no "friends" (I guess we should be careful about that word in politics) in DC, or relatively few. In that sense he and Bill Clinton are a lot alike at the starting gate. And Mr Obama, but then he had Joe Biden on the team.

Mr Biden is about the ultimate insider. His address book is practically everyone who's been in & out of DC in the past 6 decades. This is a huge advantage, if he can muster and use it wisely. It isn't always - same could be said of George Bush the lesser (or Richard Nixon).

When he was in the Senate... LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #1
Indeed. He is to the left of most. BlueLucy Aug 2021 #3
I'm happy with him. He has a lot on his plate to deal with. LiberalFighter Aug 2021 #4
Dear "Progressives". Knock it off with the divisive useless high school group labels. 🙄 Budi Aug 2021 #2
Yes...knock it off Deuxcents Aug 2021 #5
And not everyone in that tent is alway one or the other every day, every policy need. Budi Aug 2021 #6
You cannot call yourself a Progressive if you don't make progress. sheshe2 Aug 2021 #7
When your identity is reduced to a social media hastag & a millon+ $$ book deal.... Budi Aug 2021 #8
+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #18
Who are you complaining about? luv2fly Aug 2021 #10
People that claim to be one thing but whose own record says another story. Budi Aug 2021 #12
As you know, one person does not make all luv2fly Aug 2021 #13
Rofl... well ain't that a twist & a half. Budi Aug 2021 #21
+1 betsuni Aug 2021 #30
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #36
Brava, Budi!! Cha Aug 2021 #56
. . . niyad Aug 2021 #38
TY for this, Budi! Cha Aug 2021 #55
People are often mixed bags... Caliman73 Aug 2021 #9
Thank you for this BlueLucy Aug 2021 #15
Carter was pragmatic too. Caliman73 Aug 2021 #19
Carter was so moderate that the progressives primaried him when he was up forr reelotion. cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #41
Carter was on the right of the Democratic Party when he was elected iemanja Aug 2021 #50
Insider vs Outsider Nasruddin Aug 2021 #29
Talk about exceeding expectations! Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #34
Carter was a moderate when he held office. He changed over the yesrs. Demsrule86 Aug 2021 #11
K & R Thank You! Budi Aug 2021 #14
Yes it is! BlueLucy Aug 2021 #17
Thank you . nt BlueLucy Aug 2021 #16
He has exceeded all my expectations mcar Aug 2021 #20
Your claim to fame is a BFD!! When you know the history of Scranton people, you know Joe. Budi Aug 2021 #22
True story, Budi - my mother babysat him mcar Aug 2021 #23
That is such a cool lifestory. Of all the people to be old family neighbors with. The Bidens!!! Budi Aug 2021 #25
Wait, I though Obama was the most progressive zipplewrath Aug 2021 #24
But still, he's not 'progressive' enough!! Budi Aug 2021 #27
👍 Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #32
Who? zipplewrath Aug 2021 #40
It just shows how sadly they lag behind the times. betsuni Aug 2021 #26
What is this a bash progressives thread? Rizen Aug 2021 #28
+1 Celerity Aug 2021 #33
Manchin & Sinema didn't vote NO on funding the Senate Afghan assistance bill Budi Aug 2021 #49
There is one every couple of days Bettie Sep 2021 #59
Biden rocks! Joinfortmill Aug 2021 #31
Maybe the Progressive "gatekeepers" can clear something up for me. Has the term "Progressive" been Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #35
Not JFK zipplewrath Aug 2021 #42
So now there's been a jump from Forward Moving to "radical leftists" ? nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #45
K & R Budi Aug 2021 #52
I guess it is what it is, and that's that. Go Dems ! nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #54
Radical leftists iemanja Aug 2021 #51
Honestly if you go by blind legislative proposals cinematicdiversions Aug 2021 #43
It's been redefined, means "anti-establishment": the moral, pure vs corrupt immoral establishment. betsuni Aug 2021 #44
There is no such thing as "moral purity", in politics, governance, or anything else. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #47
But that's how populism works. Lots of evil enemies who will stop at nothing to defeat betsuni Aug 2021 #48
So? DownriverDem Aug 2021 #37
Pretty much how I see things these days. nt Progressive Jones Aug 2021 #46
The 2020 electionresults in the Congress are educating empedocles Sep 2021 #57
The Biden haters I've encountered on Twitter can't let go. NurseJackie Aug 2021 #39
This sort of conversation irritates the Democrat in me. jaxexpat Sep 2021 #58
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