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In reply to the discussion: I'm not sure if this will cross the line, but if I stray across it will not be the first time. [View all]Mad_Machine76
(24,452 posts)39. I don't know if I would say that we "played nice" and ALLOWED a stolen seat
Republicans used their power that they had because they won the Senate in 2014 to exploit the Constitution to prevent confirmation hearings or even a vote on Garland. Do you think that if the Democrats had had a legal option to get Garland confirmed, they wouldn't have done it? Plus, who exactly thought that TRUMP would win the election in 2016? Even many Republicans assumed Hillary would win.
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I'm not sure if this will cross the line, but if I stray across it will not be the first time. [View all]
Atticus
Sep 2021
OP
Actually we need a massive turnout in 2022, so we don't need Manchin or Sinema to get rid of the
JohnSJ
Sep 2021
#4
Chin it is doubtful that mass protests will change their minds, if what has happened hasn't done so
JohnSJ
Sep 2021
#10
I understand, but I don't think any others are willing to ACTUALLY defy leadership and vote to
Atticus
Sep 2021
#9
It's a miracle that Manchin, who votes with us 60% of the time, got elected in the single state
pnwmom
Sep 2021
#70
She's not getting my vote. I'll leave her position blank before I'd vote for her again. nt
in2herbs
Sep 2021
#24
And I understand what you are saying, I just disagree. We have to contend with that 6-3 SCOTUS
Atticus
Sep 2021
#37
I don't know if I would say that we "played nice" and ALLOWED a stolen seat
Mad_Machine76
Sep 2021
#39
Which options were "legal" are often determined by the winners. IMHO, we allowed an unprecedented
Atticus
Sep 2021
#45
I'm sure you can cite sources to support such serious accusations. Please share them with us. nt
Atticus
Sep 2021
#46
Perhaps Biden can offer Manchin a cushy job like a prestigious ambassadorship after 2023
Lonestarblue
Sep 2021
#48
Please ---that amounts to saving the filibuster that MIGHT help us some time in the future
Atticus
Sep 2021
#50