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In reply to the discussion: the "OMG they are going to steal it!!1!!" posts drive down enthusiasm and are counterproductive [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)129. Remember Michael Connell.
The Suspicious, Disturbing Death of Election Rigger Michael Connell
by By Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
December 20, 2008
EXCERPT...
Ohio Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell hired Connell in 2004 to create a real-time computer data compilation for counting Ohios votes. Under Connell's supervision, Ohios presidential vote count was transmitted to private, partisan computer servers owned by SmartTech housed in the basement of the Old Pioneer Bank building in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Connells company, New Media Communications worked closely with SmartTech in building Republican and right-wing websites that were hosted on SmartTech servers. Among Connells clients were the Republican National Committee, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and gwb43.com, that housed at one point Karl Rove's missing emails. Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared despite repeated court-sanctioned attempts to review them.
In 2001, Michael Connells GovTech Solutions, LLC was selected to reorganize the Capitol Hill IT network, the only private-sector company to gain permission from HIR to place its server behind the firewall, he bragged.
At 12:20 am on the night of the 2004 election exit polls and initial vote counts showed John Kerry the clear winner of Ohio's presidential campaign. The Buckeye State's 20 electoral votes would have given Kerry the presidency.
But from then until around 2am, the flow of information mysteriously ceased. After that, the vote count shifted dramatically to George W. Bush, ultimately giving him a second term. In the end there was a 6.7 percent diversion---in Bush's favor---between highly professional, nationally funded exit polls and the final official vote count as tabulated by Blackwell and Connell.
Until his death Connell remained the IT supervisor for six Congressional committees. But on the day before the 2008 election, Connell was deposed by attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis about his actions during the 2004 vote count, and his continued involvement in IT operations for the GOP, including his access to Rove's e-mail files and the circumstances behind their disappearance.
CONTINUED...
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2008/3320
PS: How quickly the pages turn. Thanks for standing up to Them, femrap.
by By Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
December 20, 2008
EXCERPT...
Ohio Republican Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell hired Connell in 2004 to create a real-time computer data compilation for counting Ohios votes. Under Connell's supervision, Ohios presidential vote count was transmitted to private, partisan computer servers owned by SmartTech housed in the basement of the Old Pioneer Bank building in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Connells company, New Media Communications worked closely with SmartTech in building Republican and right-wing websites that were hosted on SmartTech servers. Among Connells clients were the Republican National Committee, Swift Boat Veterans for Truth and gwb43.com, that housed at one point Karl Rove's missing emails. Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared despite repeated court-sanctioned attempts to review them.
In 2001, Michael Connells GovTech Solutions, LLC was selected to reorganize the Capitol Hill IT network, the only private-sector company to gain permission from HIR to place its server behind the firewall, he bragged.
At 12:20 am on the night of the 2004 election exit polls and initial vote counts showed John Kerry the clear winner of Ohio's presidential campaign. The Buckeye State's 20 electoral votes would have given Kerry the presidency.
But from then until around 2am, the flow of information mysteriously ceased. After that, the vote count shifted dramatically to George W. Bush, ultimately giving him a second term. In the end there was a 6.7 percent diversion---in Bush's favor---between highly professional, nationally funded exit polls and the final official vote count as tabulated by Blackwell and Connell.
Until his death Connell remained the IT supervisor for six Congressional committees. But on the day before the 2008 election, Connell was deposed by attorneys Cliff Arnebeck and Bob Fitrakis about his actions during the 2004 vote count, and his continued involvement in IT operations for the GOP, including his access to Rove's e-mail files and the circumstances behind their disappearance.
CONTINUED...
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2008/3320
PS: How quickly the pages turn. Thanks for standing up to Them, femrap.
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the "OMG they are going to steal it!!1!!" posts drive down enthusiasm and are counterproductive [View all]
scheming daemons
Oct 2012
OP
The 2000 election was not stolen, Bush won by just over 1,000 votes in Florida.
bluestate10
Oct 2012
#143
+2. I totally agree. How does pointing out potential election theft depress the vote??
BlueCaliDem
Oct 2012
#68
I never saw it as a done deal, only a big problem that needs to be addressed. I remember Jeb Bush
crunch60
Oct 2012
#136
Amen brother! I am not willing to bury my head in the sand! This shit has and will happen to
Dustlawyer
Oct 2012
#111
well there's a difference between "let's make sure it isn't close enough to steal" and "why bother,
dionysus
Oct 2012
#97
Nope-the evidence is clear and has been clear for years. We need to speak out
librechik
Oct 2012
#12
Exactly. Not to mention that as Dems and NOT Reps, we actually speak facts & truth, not
Lionessa
Oct 2012
#48
Get registered, get other people that will vote with you registered, and fucking vote.
bluestate10
Oct 2012
#144
The Foil Hat Brigade shall now expand the Conspiracy to include schming daemons
slackmaster
Oct 2012
#13
The only way they can steal the election is if we don't get our asses out of our seats
justiceischeap
Oct 2012
#15
I'd say those of you who wait until this point in the cyle to worry about election fraud
Bluenorthwest
Oct 2012
#112
Yet election fraud means Republicans take office when Democrats actually win the vote.
bigmonkey
Oct 2012
#127
Instant gratification is an addiction--as You say, "disease" & will not be eliminated.
hue
Oct 2012
#91
We should be eternally killing ourselves to overcome nationwide election theft?
marions ghost
Oct 2012
#114
I've seen posters still harp on the first debate even after we've had the VP and 2nd debate
LynneSin
Oct 2012
#29
You can resume your despair and attack on the President after Election Day, if that helps. n/t
porphyrian
Oct 2012
#36
Waukesha County Clerk Kathy Nickolaus tells some of us from Wisconsin otherwise....
midnight
Oct 2012
#40
It's concern about concern. And an attempt to discourage posters from the Left. Moreover...
Romulox
Oct 2012
#50
I am not saying they wont try... it is the defeatist "woe is us" threads
scheming daemons
Oct 2012
#54
Yes I agree we should stop bemoaning that we are going to have it stolen from us. That does not...
hrmjustin
Oct 2012
#60
So, how many votes and how much enthusiasm will be lost due to posts here?
Tierra_y_Libertad
Oct 2012
#65
Let me put it another way. Fear is a motivator, despair is the opposite
scheming daemons
Oct 2012
#67
Unfortunately, it is a reality! And in my opinion the more that vote the less likely they can steal
judesedit
Oct 2012
#69
We all know that Republicans would never, ever do something as dishonest as stealing an election
Fumesucker
Oct 2012
#74
I agree completely! This isn't 2000, or even 2004 - as they saying goes, "GET OVER IT!"
George II
Oct 2012
#76
scheming daemons, I am curious if you have any response to my reply above (#32)
Tom Rinaldo
Oct 2012
#77
Do you believe that we should accept electronic machines owned by private corporations, many with
Time for change
Oct 2012
#84
I agree with you about calling DUers trolls. The OP didn't do that but other responders did.
randome
Oct 2012
#88
The 1st debate was just cause for a meltdown. But everything since has moved in the right direction.
scheming daemons
Oct 2012
#96
It creates a "what's the use? My vote won't matter" attitude and we can't let that take hold.
AlbertCat
Oct 2012
#99
re:he "OMG they are going to steal it!!1!!" posts drive down enthusiasm and are counterproductive
allan01
Oct 2012
#108
"fool me once, shame on..shame on you...fool me twice...can't get fooled again!" GW Bush
RepublicansRZombies
Oct 2012
#109
They delete defenseless puppies (PUPPIES!!!) from GD, but let this meta post stay
DisgustipatedinCA
Oct 2012
#133
Is ANYONE reading THIS forum thinking I was going to vote for Obama, but...
Thegonagle
Oct 2012
#135
If I was a Freeper troll trying to infiltrate, that's exactly what I'd do
ButterflyBlood
Oct 2012
#146