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meow2u3

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21. The debt ceiling is unconstitutional per the 14th Amendment

Reply to Goodheart (Original post)

Fri Sep 24, 2021, 10:22 AM

Sep 2021

https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amendment-xiv

Section 4

The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Repunks are actually questioning the public debt and the full faith and credit of the United States by blocking the debt ceiling legislation. They in rebellion against the Constitution, so let's treat them like the enemies they are and scrap the unconstitutional debt ceiling. This isn't a private credit card with a spending limit.

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My suggestion to Dems for handling the debt ceiling: IGNORE IT [View all] Goodheart Sep 2021 OP

I don't think we have control over that. Patton French Sep 2021 #1

Why would there be a default if you pay the bill without a declared "debt ceiling"? Goodheart Sep 2021 #6

Where is the money supposedly coming from? We have to service the debt we already have!!!! hlthe2b Sep 2021 #15

Yes, exactly. (n/t) Patton French Sep 2021 #17

As illusory as the concept of money is Patton French Sep 2021 #18

It doesn't work that way. mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #2

I don't follow your point. Goodheart Sep 2021 #5

If I have no money and default on my debt, who the hell do you think is going to lend to me? hlthe2b Sep 2021 #14

Really? "U.S. default this fall would cost 6 million jobs, wipe out $15 trillion in wealth" WAPO hlthe2b Sep 2021 #3

You need to re-read what I actually posted. Goodheart Sep 2021 #4

You wouldn't happen to have been issued a driver's license, would you? mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #9

THAT is so NOT true. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #11

Tell that to democratic constituents who won't get their Social Security checks post-default. no_hypocrisy Sep 2021 #7

What? Goodheart Sep 2021 #8

Where the hell do you think the money is going to come from? Someone has to fund the debt hlthe2b Sep 2021 #12

I'm stunned. stopdiggin Sep 2021 #10

Ditto. hlthe2b Sep 2021 #13

Any other laws we can ignore at will? brooklynite Sep 2021 #16

That's the second time I've seen that here. Hard pass. FBaggins Sep 2021 #19

On the whole, it's not "Dems" who control the bank accounts, and would face the consequences muriel_volestrangler Sep 2021 #20

The debt ceiling is unconstitutional per the 14th Amendment meow2u3 Sep 2021 #21

This is a unique interpretation. NT mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2021 #22