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Russian Spook

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29. If we take our troops out of Europe it would be a sign of weakness and also a sign

Tue Oct 12, 2021, 10:12 AM

Oct 2021

that we would not protect Europe from a Russian invasion. We would have to leave Europe to defend itself or we would have to go to war with Russia. Either way, it would end up costing us much more economically or in the loss of troops. It most likely would start WWIII. I am not an expert on our military, but there must be some downsizing that could be done to our military that would not affect our defensive capabilities but would allow us to do more for our people.

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Losing Europe [View all] Woodswalker Oct 2021 OP

Pretty sure that Germany not Russia was the opponent in WWII Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #1

Right after WWII, the Truman Doctrine/ Marshall Plan provided huge amounts of money to Europe Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #3

Granted, but not what was posted Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #6

It was just once misplaced word. But I hear you. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #11

The OP may have had information of value Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #14

But they also said "fought" - which means during the war, not after muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #26

No Era Woodswalker Oct 2021 #15

Sure, you just go right ahead with your view Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #18

Thankyou Woodswalker Oct 2021 #7

You are most welcome. Keep posting, you make good points and have a valuable point of view. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #12

Well that is only because Hitler bombed Pearl Harbor. NT cinematicdiversions Oct 2021 #8

Precisely Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #17

I'm pretty sure Woodswalker Oct 2021 #9

The enemy was Germany Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #16

Germany was our opponent during WWII but if we had not attacked Germany, Russian Spook Oct 2021 #28

A lot depends upon which counterfactual scenario you are wishing to work through Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #31

I was not writing about the Lend Lease only the use of military engagement. Russian Spook Oct 2021 #32

No second front Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #33

Russia wouldn't have a second front, but Germany can not count on not having one. Russian Spook Oct 2021 #34

You missed the point, but yes we are better off than Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #35

So your basically parroting old lessons Woodswalker Oct 2021 #36

I don't think you know what "counterfactual" means muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #41

Your right, we did send the red army Spam Woodswalker Oct 2021 #37

And trucks and aircraft and tanks Sherman A1 Oct 2021 #38

Isn't this how things have been for a long time ? And they have good reasons for thinking we are JI7 Oct 2021 #2

"Europeans think we're a country of Nitwits" luv2fly Oct 2021 #4

Some Americans think we're a country of nitwits also. llmart Oct 2021 #10

I wish we'd bring our troops out of Europe then jimfields33 Oct 2021 #19

Exactly, bring home our troops and we can afford free healthcare and education like Europe. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #20

+1,000 jimfields33 Oct 2021 #22

If we take our troops out of Europe it would be a sign of weakness and also a sign Russian Spook Oct 2021 #29

Yep, cannot argue with their logic. Irish_Dem Oct 2021 #21

Trump says pretty much the same thing every time he's given a microphone. GoCubsGo Oct 2021 #24

You don't get to define my intent luv2fly Oct 2021 #25

I'm not defining anything. GoCubsGo Oct 2021 #30

Prior to WW I, democratic France and autocratic Russia were allies Klaralven Oct 2021 #5

Germany and Russia have been close historically Woodswalker Oct 2021 #13

What? betsuni Oct 2021 #23

Data, not anecdote: European view of USA far more favorable in 2021 muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #27

That data's from March 12 to May 26. 10 quid says those numbers have dropped, perhaps a lot. Celerity Oct 2021 #39

I doubt they've dropped much. muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #40

Dust ups with Germany and France for instance, happened after that survey. Let me know when you get Celerity Oct 2021 #43

I'm sure your european friends consider you "one of the good ones" mathematic Oct 2021 #42

Quite a few assumptions on this thread DFW Oct 2021 #44