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muriel_volestrangler

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32. On climate, yeah, the corporations won - anything anti-fossil fuel out, but money for renewables in
Thu Oct 28, 2021, 06:42 PM
Oct 2021
This proposed framework includes $555bn in incentives, investments and tax credits aimed at bolstering the deployment of renewable energy such as solar and wind, as well as a tax break that will deliver up to $12,500 to people who buy an electric car. The bill will help deploy new electric buses and trucks, build community resilience to disastrous wildfires and floods and employ 300,000 people in a new “civilian climate corps”.
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This effort has been repeatedly stymied by the objections of Manchin, a West Virginia senator with deep ties to the coal industry who managed to strike out of the bill a system that would have phased out fossil fuels from America’s electricity grid. This plan was responsible for a third of the emissions cuts in the original version of the legislation, according to analysts.

The new framework does not include fees paid by oil and gas producers when they emit methane, a potent greenhouse gas. Manchin was also opposed to this fee in the original bill and rejected a proposal to include a tax or price on carbon emissions. The Environmental Protection Agency is, however, poised to regulate methane emissions through its existing powers.

These omissions mean that the legislation’s framework represents a historic investment in clean energy but doesn’t include any mechanisms to reduce fossil fuel usage or even cut subsidies flowing to the oil, coal and gas companies that have caused the climate crisis.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/28/biden-spending-plan-billions-climate-crisis
Yawn..... brooklynite Oct 2021 #1
Indeed Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2021 #6
Apparently the hope for the infrastructure plan was an ol' fashioned barn-raising? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #9
True that... I am excited to pass the most sweeping legislation in my memory... I wasn't born Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #11
Where's that narrative originating, anyway. Budi Oct 2021 #25
Corporations almost always win. marie999 Oct 2021 #2
And when we have more Democrats perhaps that will change but not in a 50 50 Senate. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #8
Taxes Zeitghost Oct 2021 #33
Agree to disagree? JustAnotherGen Oct 2021 #3
almost nothing? qazplm135 Oct 2021 #4
You should have saved your 16 cents from July leftstreet Oct 2021 #5
No you don't have it right...in what world is 1.7 trillion nothing...expanded ACA,PreK, increased Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #7
Most people will just see it as expanded "welfare" leftstreet Oct 2021 #10
And I counter with new Pell grant spending, child care survives at least for a year and I Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #14
I think dental's been removed. Also vision n/t leftstreet Oct 2021 #20
Did you ever here of medicare advantage? My sis in law is getting 100 bucks off of part B, Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #21
Oh, okay n/t leftstreet Oct 2021 #22
I know some don't like those plans but she has had a good experience. Also, when hubs was out of Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #26
It was originally meant to be free leftstreet Oct 2021 #28
There are no premiums for this plan. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #43
Yes MOMFUDSKI Oct 2021 #37
I don't care about doctors...it is not like the old days ...when you knew your doctor.... so I Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #44
The vision and dental on any medicare advantage plan still leaves Captain Zero Oct 2021 #50
The camel now has its nose under the tent Deminpenn Oct 2021 #31
That is it... I don't know if voting rights gets done ...we need more Democrats...but we can tie Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #45
Most people won't see that at all AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #15
If you say so leftstreet Oct 2021 #19
Hanging out at the small town diner or something? AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #35
LOL n/t leftstreet Oct 2021 #38
:) I'm guessing sneaking off to tRump rallies or hanging out Hortensis Oct 2021 #39
Careful... AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #40
The people I'm speaking of don't vote Democratic, Hortensis Oct 2021 #42
It hasn't passed yet Bettie Oct 2021 #30
Yes. I believe they will vote 'yes'. Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #46
Still believe that? Bettie Nov 2021 #53
How insulting. I won't argue, though, with the delusional notion that Hortensis Oct 2021 #12
Let's just say I'm not surprised by the loudest voices AZSkiffyGeek Oct 2021 #36
Yea, you got it right. Business as usual. hamsterjill Oct 2021 #13
No. NurseJackie Oct 2021 #16
Haaaa. That's a keeper. Best gif of the day, thanks Budi Oct 2021 #27
The promise was made to the donor class that nothing would fundamentally change. aocommunalpunch Oct 2021 #17
It's a great mistake to assume that most Democratic voters are doing poorly Hortensis Oct 2021 #41
You are wrong...this is a big deal...This bill is ground breaking and I never expected to see Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #47
What nonsense. The two bills will do immense good comradebillyboy Oct 2021 #18
Maybe we can learn from the repugs. rickyhall Oct 2021 #23
unrec - that's two today and I've been outside almost all day. panader0 Oct 2021 #24
K & R Budi Oct 2021 #29
I know right...like the Great society...I don't see how folks are missing this...history will be Demsrule86 Oct 2021 #48
On climate, yeah, the corporations won - anything anti-fossil fuel out, but money for renewables in muriel_volestrangler Oct 2021 #32
America is a country for and by corporations budkin Oct 2021 #34
of corporations, by corporations, for corporations. pansypoo53219 Oct 2021 #49
Your post has some merit mvd Oct 2021 #51
that's exactly it ProfessorPlum Oct 2021 #52
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