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In reply to the discussion: so, do I have this right? The corporations win again, and rub our noses in it [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)32. On climate, yeah, the corporations won - anything anti-fossil fuel out, but money for renewables in
This proposed framework includes $555bn in incentives, investments and tax credits aimed at bolstering the deployment of renewable energy such as solar and wind, as well as a tax break that will deliver up to $12,500 to people who buy an electric car. The bill will help deploy new electric buses and trucks, build community resilience to disastrous wildfires and floods and employ 300,000 people in a new civilian climate corps.
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This effort has been repeatedly stymied by the objections of Manchin, a West Virginia senator with deep ties to the coal industry who managed to strike out of the bill a system that would have phased out fossil fuels from Americas electricity grid. This plan was responsible for a third of the emissions cuts in the original version of the legislation, according to analysts.
The new framework does not include fees paid by oil and gas producers when they emit methane, a potent greenhouse gas. Manchin was also opposed to this fee in the original bill and rejected a proposal to include a tax or price on carbon emissions. The Environmental Protection Agency is, however, poised to regulate methane emissions through its existing powers.
These omissions mean that the legislations framework represents a historic investment in clean energy but doesnt include any mechanisms to reduce fossil fuel usage or even cut subsidies flowing to the oil, coal and gas companies that have caused the climate crisis.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/28/biden-spending-plan-billions-climate-crisis
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This effort has been repeatedly stymied by the objections of Manchin, a West Virginia senator with deep ties to the coal industry who managed to strike out of the bill a system that would have phased out fossil fuels from Americas electricity grid. This plan was responsible for a third of the emissions cuts in the original version of the legislation, according to analysts.
The new framework does not include fees paid by oil and gas producers when they emit methane, a potent greenhouse gas. Manchin was also opposed to this fee in the original bill and rejected a proposal to include a tax or price on carbon emissions. The Environmental Protection Agency is, however, poised to regulate methane emissions through its existing powers.
These omissions mean that the legislations framework represents a historic investment in clean energy but doesnt include any mechanisms to reduce fossil fuel usage or even cut subsidies flowing to the oil, coal and gas companies that have caused the climate crisis.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/oct/28/biden-spending-plan-billions-climate-crisis
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so, do I have this right? The corporations win again, and rub our noses in it [View all]
ProfessorPlum
Oct 2021
OP
Apparently the hope for the infrastructure plan was an ol' fashioned barn-raising?
AZSkiffyGeek
Oct 2021
#9
True that... I am excited to pass the most sweeping legislation in my memory... I wasn't born
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#11
And when we have more Democrats perhaps that will change but not in a 50 50 Senate.
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#8
No you don't have it right...in what world is 1.7 trillion nothing...expanded ACA,PreK, increased
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#7
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Oct 2021
#14
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Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#21
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Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#26
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Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#44
That is it... I don't know if voting rights gets done ...we need more Democrats...but we can tie
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#45
The promise was made to the donor class that nothing would fundamentally change.
aocommunalpunch
Oct 2021
#17
You are wrong...this is a big deal...This bill is ground breaking and I never expected to see
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#47
I know right...like the Great society...I don't see how folks are missing this...history will be
Demsrule86
Oct 2021
#48
On climate, yeah, the corporations won - anything anti-fossil fuel out, but money for renewables in
muriel_volestrangler
Oct 2021
#32