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In reply to the discussion: Leave Joe Manchin ALONE! [View all]Celerity
(55,324 posts)58. Sander's never came out and said nope, no way, like Manchin did. Manchin blocked Neera Tanden for
OMB head and forced Biden to pull the plug on her nomination when he went public, on the record, as a no vote for her nomination.
Sen. Manchin opposes Neera Tanden as Biden's budget chief, imperiling nomination
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/joe-manchin-comes-out-against-neera-tanden-biden-s-omb-n1258387
White House pulls nomination of embattled budget chief pick Neera Tanden
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/white-house-pulls-nomination-embattled-budget-chief-pick-neera-tanden-n1258738
Senate Budget Committee Chair Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., clashed with Tanden, a former adviser to Hillary Clinton, during his two presidential runs. He did not take a position on her nomination.
Sanders overall has been VASTLY more supportive of Biden and his agenda overall than Manchin and Sinema have. Sanders has not blocked any bill from passing, has not gutted any bill.
Sanders voted against Vilsack (he and others wanted Marcia Fudge there) in February for Secretary of Agriculture, at the urging of multiple progressive (concerned about corporate consolidation of farming that Vilsack did little to stop his first go-round as AgSec) and black farmers/civil rights groups who vehemently opposed his track record, especially over the Shirley Sherrod case. (Vilsack was easily confirmed, 92-7 and afterward, Sanders said "I think he'll be fine, but not as strong as I would like." )
His other No vote, from late spring, was against the Endless Frontier Act, when Maria Cantwell tossed in an amendment that was a $10 billion giveaway to Bezos via Blue Origin and then actively worked to scupper his amendment that would have pulled it out. The Act past easily, 68-32.
Sanders materially blocked nothing via either protest vote.
Unlike Manchin and Sinema, Sanders (and the vast majority of other Dems) has been tirelessly trying to get as much as is possible of Biden's agenda passed intact.
It is pure sophistry to try and posit some sort of material equivalence between Manchin and Sanders in terms of deleterious actual outcomes when it comes to Biden's agenda. Manchin (and Sinema as well) have done a shedload more actual damage.
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I don't know. You can find them on the internet, I'm not poring over 453 votes.
George II
Nov 2021
#62
Try a LOT more than two or three. If three were the case, everyone's ratings would be....
George II
Nov 2021
#81
Seriously, I honestly thought Manchin would be satisfied with all the concessions
bluewater
Nov 2021
#15
Neena Tanden's nomination was withdrawn after Manchin publicly went on the record and said No
Celerity
Nov 2021
#34
Manchin wasn't the first one to balk at Tanden's nomination, it was the Committee chairman....
George II
Nov 2021
#46
Sander's never came out and said nope, no way, like Manchin did. Manchin blocked Neera Tanden for
Celerity
Nov 2021
#58
She asked that the nomination be withdrawn before the Budget Committee voted. If there was no....
George II
Nov 2021
#65
she would not have been confirmed because Manchin said NO, and no Rethug was coming to her aid.
Celerity
Nov 2021
#67
Here's a NYT article about the pushback she got. Senator Manchin's name isn't even mentioned in it:
George II
Nov 2021
#73
see post 84, the poster only posted articles from 9 days BEFORE Manchin came out & publicly said No
Celerity
Nov 2021
#85
all your articles are from 9 days BEFORE Manchin publicly announced he was a NO on Tanden
Celerity
Nov 2021
#84
I prefer to believe Senator Manchin is reachable if enough Democrats call him out
bluewater
Nov 2021
#24
But is not supporting half of President Biden's major agenda really a bad thing?
bluewater
Nov 2021
#26
Run him out and put a Republican in there... see what happens in a 51/49 Senate.
NurseJackie
Nov 2021
#35
People want to help Manchin change his views and start SUPPORTING the Build Back Better framework.
bluewater
Nov 2021
#36
Of course he doesn't read DU. That's why all this hair-on-fire ranting is so silly...
NurseJackie
Nov 2021
#43
Then you weren't talking about DU when you said "it just hardened Manchin and he dug-in his heels"?
bluewater
Nov 2021
#45
I think you Are selling Senator Manchin short, he IS capable of accepting criticism and can change.
bluewater
Nov 2021
#44
"People don't want to replace him with a republican, they'd just like him to stop acting like one"
bluewater
Nov 2021
#42
In most of these threads bashing Manchin I've asked "who do you suggest replace him?"....
George II
Nov 2021
#29
Because MOST of the comments I've responded to in the last week or so claimed:
George II
Nov 2021
#48