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WHITT

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Reply to cinematicdiversions (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 12:14 PM

Nov 2021

add all of the hard infrastructure projects from the 'BIF' into the BBB bill, but WITHOUT ALL THE CORPORATE WELFARE, PUBLIC/PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, TENS OF BILLIONS OF TOLLS, TENS OF BILLIONS OF FEES, AND HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF SPECIAL INTEREST SPENDING.

It would be FAR, FAR cheaper. So much so, even more hard infrastructure projects could be added, plus all of the lead pipes in the country can be replaced, and Universal Broadband can be funded.

Then send THAT over to the Senate and Manchin/Sinema can vote it up or down.

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Virginia Sen. Kaine: "Congressional Democrats hurt Terry McAuliffe" [View all] George II Nov 2021 OP

There are only two congressional democrats holding up Biden's agenda. TWO SoonerPride Nov 2021 #1

thank you. nt DeeNice Nov 2021 #2

Really cause they both voted for the infrastructure bill cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #3

Because Manchin and Sinema refuse to commit to voting for BBB... W_HAMILTON Nov 2021 #10

Others have committed to only vote for both of them together, the logistics of which are.... George II Nov 2021 #16

And there is the big problem with our government: Bettie Nov 2021 #60

Because WHITT Nov 2021 #13

Joe Biden is now a "corporate republican"? George II Nov 2021 #18

Except WHITT Nov 2021 #22

The bill that the Senate passed (69-30) was written/sponsored by Rep. Peter DeFazio of the House. George II Nov 2021 #24

Constructing Additional Straw Men WHITT Nov 2021 #27

You can insult me all you want, the case was made a couple of posts back. George II Nov 2021 #28

How Is Pointing Out WHITT Nov 2021 #32

Sorry, but the BIF is an actual bill, so not the straw man. Nixie Nov 2021 #40

"Some" Would Be Wrong WHITT Nov 2021 #41

See, that's the straw man. The actual bill Nixie Nov 2021 #42

You Don't Seem To Comprehend WHITT Nov 2021 #45

Now that's funny since the bill is not the straw man, Nixie Nov 2021 #46

I'm Afraid Not WHITT Nov 2021 #61

The bill is real. Your framing of it belongs to you, so Nixie Nov 2021 #68

Sorry WHITT Nov 2021 #69

Sorry, but the bill is still real, so linking to it is not Nixie Nov 2021 #70

Look the Hudson tunnel that influences 20% of our gdp cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #19

Then WHITT Nov 2021 #23

The BBB is a reconciliation bill, all that other stuff doesn't qualify under reconciliation. George II Nov 2021 #29

Sure It Does WHITT Nov 2021 #31

So you're persisting in the personal attacks, eh? I.e, "dunce": George II Nov 2021 #33

The Flawed Concept, Not The Person WHITT Nov 2021 #62

Yup. nt DLevine Nov 2021 #5

If you're hinting about two Senators, they've already voted for the infrastructure bill. George II Nov 2021 #7

Thankfully WHITT Nov 2021 #15

Well, that is likely why we lost Virginia...defeat snatched from the jaws of victory...what a shame. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #50

No WHITT Nov 2021 #63

I agree with you Chille Nov 2021 #79

Yes, because after their non-stop game playing, bobbing, weaving, and seemingly non stop Celerity Nov 2021 #20

Oh, there are more than two obstructionists. Nixie Nov 2021 #34

Senators don't vote in the House. And I may be wrong but I've never seen a vote (not even passage).. George II Nov 2021 #35

Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have set them up to be linked for months, but you knew that. Celerity Nov 2021 #38

"The linkage is crucial" Nixie Nov 2021 #43

Leverage for what exactly? Nancy wanted a vote and some refused to do it... It might have Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #51

Agreed with everything you said. The linkage was not crucial, but it was presented Nixie Nov 2021 #54

If we remove the leverage and pass the BIF, and then Manchin ends up blocking the BBB or shredding Celerity Nov 2021 #58

You adlib a lot about others, hard pass on that. If only I could Nixie Nov 2021 #67

ruminate away, why get shy now Celerity Nov 2021 #71

More adlibbing. No wonder voters got turned off Nixie Nov 2021 #72

Is 'adlib' the new word du jour at the clubhouse? You have now led off your last 2 replies to me Celerity Nov 2021 #73

... betsuni Nov 2021 #75

It figures you would attack "adlib" and try to fit that into Nixie Nov 2021 #78

+1000 bluewater Nov 2021 #11

+10000000000000000 Celerity Nov 2021 #14

Seems to me that there are two Democrats holding up Biden's progress. bearsfootball516 Nov 2021 #4

2 or 200, the perceptions and judgements garnered are the same Dave says Nov 2021 #8

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I agree with Senator Kaine 100% Dave says Nov 2021 #6

Then make Manchinema take the compromise wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #47

Then we get nothing because that won't happen. There is a compromise bill that can pass. I suggest Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #53

Both bills were agreed on back in June AZProgressive Nov 2021 #56

50/50 inthewind21 Nov 2021 #57

Terry McAuliffe... orwell Nov 2021 #9

McAuliffe WHITT Nov 2021 #17

Turnout was up former9thward Nov 2021 #55

Not Among WHITT Nov 2021 #64

Agreed. n/t MarcA Nov 2021 #36

Spot on Senator Kaine JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #12

No. Terry was the candidate and he failed to make the case comradebillyboy Nov 2021 #21

Congress should have passed both bills. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #49

Yes, Congress should have passed both bills. But I don't comradebillyboy Nov 2021 #59

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K & R we've been witnessing this sideshow for months. Budi Nov 2021 #26

This is exactly right and the image is undeniable. Nixie Nov 2021 #30

He hurt himself. nt Autumn Nov 2021 #37

Disagree strongly. ananda Nov 2021 #39

I agree with Senator Kaine LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #44

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Disagree. onenote Nov 2021 #65

Nope. budkin Nov 2021 #66

Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #74

Mancinema. Autumn Nov 2021 #76

So a far right republican defeats a Democrat and you're gloating, claiming a "center right wing".... George II Nov 2021 #77

Well said, George! Cha Nov 2021 #80