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budkin

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66. Nope.

Reply to George II (Original post)

Wed Nov 3, 2021, 03:53 PM

Nov 2021

Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema hurt him. And he also hurt himself quite a bit.

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Virginia Sen. Kaine: "Congressional Democrats hurt Terry McAuliffe" [View all] George II Nov 2021 OP

There are only two congressional democrats holding up Biden's agenda. TWO SoonerPride Nov 2021 #1

thank you. nt DeeNice Nov 2021 #2

Really cause they both voted for the infrastructure bill cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #3

Because Manchin and Sinema refuse to commit to voting for BBB... W_HAMILTON Nov 2021 #10

Others have committed to only vote for both of them together, the logistics of which are.... George II Nov 2021 #16

And there is the big problem with our government: Bettie Nov 2021 #60

Because WHITT Nov 2021 #13

Joe Biden is now a "corporate republican"? George II Nov 2021 #18

Except WHITT Nov 2021 #22

The bill that the Senate passed (69-30) was written/sponsored by Rep. Peter DeFazio of the House. George II Nov 2021 #24

Constructing Additional Straw Men WHITT Nov 2021 #27

You can insult me all you want, the case was made a couple of posts back. George II Nov 2021 #28

How Is Pointing Out WHITT Nov 2021 #32

Sorry, but the BIF is an actual bill, so not the straw man. Nixie Nov 2021 #40

"Some" Would Be Wrong WHITT Nov 2021 #41

See, that's the straw man. The actual bill Nixie Nov 2021 #42

You Don't Seem To Comprehend WHITT Nov 2021 #45

Now that's funny since the bill is not the straw man, Nixie Nov 2021 #46

I'm Afraid Not WHITT Nov 2021 #61

The bill is real. Your framing of it belongs to you, so Nixie Nov 2021 #68

Sorry WHITT Nov 2021 #69

Sorry, but the bill is still real, so linking to it is not Nixie Nov 2021 #70

Look the Hudson tunnel that influences 20% of our gdp cinematicdiversions Nov 2021 #19

Then WHITT Nov 2021 #23

The BBB is a reconciliation bill, all that other stuff doesn't qualify under reconciliation. George II Nov 2021 #29

Sure It Does WHITT Nov 2021 #31

So you're persisting in the personal attacks, eh? I.e, "dunce": George II Nov 2021 #33

The Flawed Concept, Not The Person WHITT Nov 2021 #62

Yup. nt DLevine Nov 2021 #5

If you're hinting about two Senators, they've already voted for the infrastructure bill. George II Nov 2021 #7

Thankfully WHITT Nov 2021 #15

Well, that is likely why we lost Virginia...defeat snatched from the jaws of victory...what a shame. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #50

No WHITT Nov 2021 #63

I agree with you Chille Nov 2021 #79

Yes, because after their non-stop game playing, bobbing, weaving, and seemingly non stop Celerity Nov 2021 #20

Oh, there are more than two obstructionists. Nixie Nov 2021 #34

Senators don't vote in the House. And I may be wrong but I've never seen a vote (not even passage).. George II Nov 2021 #35

Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer have set them up to be linked for months, but you knew that. Celerity Nov 2021 #38

"The linkage is crucial" Nixie Nov 2021 #43

Leverage for what exactly? Nancy wanted a vote and some refused to do it... It might have Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #51

Agreed with everything you said. The linkage was not crucial, but it was presented Nixie Nov 2021 #54

If we remove the leverage and pass the BIF, and then Manchin ends up blocking the BBB or shredding Celerity Nov 2021 #58

You adlib a lot about others, hard pass on that. If only I could Nixie Nov 2021 #67

ruminate away, why get shy now Celerity Nov 2021 #71

More adlibbing. No wonder voters got turned off Nixie Nov 2021 #72

Is 'adlib' the new word du jour at the clubhouse? You have now led off your last 2 replies to me Celerity Nov 2021 #73

... betsuni Nov 2021 #75

It figures you would attack "adlib" and try to fit that into Nixie Nov 2021 #78

+1000 bluewater Nov 2021 #11

+10000000000000000 Celerity Nov 2021 #14

Seems to me that there are two Democrats holding up Biden's progress. bearsfootball516 Nov 2021 #4

2 or 200, the perceptions and judgements garnered are the same Dave says Nov 2021 #8

Manchin and Sinema both voted for the infrastructure bill so they are not holding that up...I am Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #52

I agree with Senator Kaine 100% Dave says Nov 2021 #6

Then make Manchinema take the compromise wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #47

Then we get nothing because that won't happen. There is a compromise bill that can pass. I suggest Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #53

Both bills were agreed on back in June AZProgressive Nov 2021 #56

50/50 inthewind21 Nov 2021 #57

Terry McAuliffe... orwell Nov 2021 #9

McAuliffe WHITT Nov 2021 #17

Turnout was up former9thward Nov 2021 #55

Not Among WHITT Nov 2021 #64

Agreed. n/t MarcA Nov 2021 #36

Spot on Senator Kaine JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #12

No. Terry was the candidate and he failed to make the case comradebillyboy Nov 2021 #21

Congress should have passed both bills. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #49

Yes, Congress should have passed both bills. But I don't comradebillyboy Nov 2021 #59

Have to agree that drawn out legislative battles have hurt Democratic candidates andym Nov 2021 #25

K & R we've been witnessing this sideshow for months. Budi Nov 2021 #26

This is exactly right and the image is undeniable. Nixie Nov 2021 #30

He hurt himself. nt Autumn Nov 2021 #37

Disagree strongly. ananda Nov 2021 #39

I agree with Senator Kaine LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2021 #44

I believe had the infrastructure bill passed, McAuliffe might have won. So agree. We need to Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #48

Disagree. onenote Nov 2021 #65

Nope. budkin Nov 2021 #66

Post removed Post removed Nov 2021 #74

Mancinema. Autumn Nov 2021 #76

So a far right republican defeats a Democrat and you're gloating, claiming a "center right wing".... George II Nov 2021 #77

Well said, George! Cha Nov 2021 #80