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panader0

(25,816 posts) Fri Nov 5, 2021, 07:11 AM Nov 2021

Did Democrats make a mistake by tying the infrastructure bill together with the BBB bill? [View all]

The infrastructure bill was bi-partisan and would have passed and perhaps created momentum.
I understand that the reason to tie them was because the BBB bill was much less popular with R's.
But it would have been a win to pass the one bill, and created jobs, etc. that could have helped
with Biden's numbers and maybe Virginia.

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Did Democrats make a mistake by tying the infrastructure bill together with the BBB bill? [View all] panader0 Nov 2021 OP

Unfortunately No, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2021 #1

It's looking more and more that Manchin and Sinema won't vote for it anyway. panader0 Nov 2021 #4

How's that "extortion" working out? brooklynite Nov 2021 #12

Please Clarify, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2021 #15

It sure is, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #16

This site says we cannot bash democratic politicians jimfields33 Nov 2021 #18

They could refrain from gleefully cheerleading anti-democratic behavior. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #20

It is done every day depends on who it is. A post I made a few months ago about Senator Sanders was doc03 Nov 2021 #23

I DON'T support it...neither do I pointlessly rant against it. brooklynite Nov 2021 #26

Flat Question, Sir The Magistrate Nov 2021 #29

I don't think it will matter one bit. Pass what we can and hope we survive for more. This way we get Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #42

How about with Manchin and Sinema, we have no majority? That is a fact and why all the hostage Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #43

For them? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2021 #19

What makes you think that either Manchin or Sinema care one bit about either bill? Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #44

Both Have Said They Want The 'Bipartisan' Farce To Pass, Ma'am The Magistrate Nov 2021 #48

"the BBB bill was much less popular with R's." - no Republicans support the BBB bill... PoliticAverse Nov 2021 #2

No they didn't make a mistake- it's the only thing that has kept the BBB alive. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2021 #3

Is it still alive? It's been reduced from 3.5 T to 1.5 T and there's still no agreement panader0 Nov 2021 #5

Only because we kept giving away the house wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #6

Rather than trimming it down, we need to put in some pork for SineManchin's donors. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #14

Cheapest thing is to pay $20 million wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #27

We do what we can and come back later...surely you don't think nothing would be better? Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #39

*Stares in Obamacare* wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #46

No. A jobs bill would have made no difference in VA. LonePirate Nov 2021 #7

Tim Kaine said that Democratic infighting cost Terry the election. panader0 Nov 2021 #9

He's wrong. We can see which two are the problem, FoxNewsSucks Nov 2021 #17

He is right. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #38

Yes boston bean Nov 2021 #8

Only if you never, ever want the BBB bill to actually pass Bettie Nov 2021 #10

I agree with your assessment of Manchin and Sinema. panader0 Nov 2021 #11

I think that the BBB will fail because of S and M. panader0 Nov 2021 #13

It was all supposed to be one bill MoonlitKnight Nov 2021 #21

I think the bad bill Chille Nov 2021 #28

The infrastructure bill is not a 'bad' bill, there are good things in it. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #35

It was referred to as Chille Nov 2021 #41

No Lettuce Be Nov 2021 #22

I'll believe it when I see it. panader0 Nov 2021 #24

No, this will get nothing through...the leverage wasn't there and it never will be... Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #36

Yes, it was a mistake. Look at the candidates who lost Nixie Nov 2021 #25

Manchin and Sinema are full of shit, not on solid ground Silent3 Nov 2021 #30

Bernie did not make it through a Democratic primary Nixie Nov 2021 #31

It should have been passed in September and may McAuliffe would have won if we had. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #37

Yes they did. They tried to use it as leverage which won't work and makes us look bad. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #32

I don't think so. I understand why they did it. It was the only leverage they had. In It to Win It Nov 2021 #33

Yes, they did. JoanofArgh Nov 2021 #34

No! And the gaslighting that's going on here on DU to pretend otherwise is gross Blaukraut Nov 2021 #40

It doesn't really matter that it was only Manchin and Sinema. panader0 Nov 2021 #45

Your Closing Point, Ma'am, Is Distressingly Apt The Magistrate Nov 2021 #47

+10000000000000000 Celerity Nov 2021 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Nov 2021 #51

no nt Celerity Nov 2021 #49