Only because we kept giving away the house (Reply #6)

In the discussion thread: Did Democrats make a mistake by tying the infrastructure bill together with the BBB bill? [View all]

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Fri Nov 5, 2021, 08:29 AM

wellst0nev0ter (7,509 posts)

6. Only because we kept giving away the house

If we trimmed a modest amount from BBB and put it in front of Manchinema, daring them to vote against the bill and against the agenda of President Biden and the vast majority of Democrats, it would have forced their hands.

As the anti-progressives have repeatedly said on this board, Manchinema is actually loyal to Biden, so stop being mean to them

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51 replies	Author	Time	Post
Did Democrats make a mistake by tying the infrastructure bill together with the BBB bill? [View all]	panader0	Nov 2021	OP
Unfortunately No, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#1
It's looking more and more that Manchin and Sinema won't vote for it anyway.	panader0	Nov 2021	#4
How's that "extortion" working out?	brooklynite	Nov 2021	#12
Please Clarify, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#15
It sure is,	FoxNewsSucks	Nov 2021	#16
This site says we cannot bash democratic politicians	jimfields33	Nov 2021	#18
They could refrain from gleefully cheerleading anti-democratic behavior.	FoxNewsSucks	Nov 2021	#20
It is done every day depends on who it is. A post I made a few months ago about Senator Sanders was	doc03	Nov 2021	#23
I DON'T support it...neither do I pointlessly rant against it.	brooklynite	Nov 2021	#26
Flat Question, Sir	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#29
I don't think it will matter one bit. Pass what we can and hope we survive for more. This way we get	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#42
How about with Manchin and Sinema, we have no majority? That is a fact and why all the hostage	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#43
For them?	Act_of_Reparation	Nov 2021	#19
What makes you think that either Manchin or Sinema care one bit about either bill?	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#44
Both Have Said They Want The 'Bipartisan' Farce To Pass, Ma'am	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#48
"the BBB bill was much less popular with R's." - no Republicans support the BBB bill...	PoliticAverse	Nov 2021	#2
No they didn't make a mistake- it's the only thing that has kept the BBB alive. Nt	Fiendish Thingy	Nov 2021	#3
Is it still alive? It's been reduced from 3.5 T to 1.5 T and there's still no agreement	panader0	Nov 2021	#5
Only because we kept giving away the house	wellst0nev0ter	Nov 2021	#6
Rather than trimming it down, we need to put in some pork for SineManchin's donors.	lagomorph777	Nov 2021	#14
Cheapest thing is to pay $20 million	wellst0nev0ter	Nov 2021	#27
We do what we can and come back later...surely you don't think nothing would be better?	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#39
Stares in Obamacare	wellst0nev0ter	Nov 2021	#46
No. A jobs bill would have made no difference in VA.	LonePirate	Nov 2021	#7
Tim Kaine said that Democratic infighting cost Terry the election.	panader0	Nov 2021	#9
He's wrong. We can see which two are the problem,	FoxNewsSucks	Nov 2021	#17
He is right.	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#38
Yes	boston bean	Nov 2021	#8
Only if you never, ever want the BBB bill to actually pass	Bettie	Nov 2021	#10
I agree with your assessment of Manchin and Sinema.	panader0	Nov 2021	#11
I think that the BBB will fail because of S and M.	panader0	Nov 2021	#13
It was all supposed to be one bill	MoonlitKnight	Nov 2021	#21
I think the bad bill	Chille	Nov 2021	#28
The infrastructure bill is not a 'bad' bill, there are good things in it.	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#35
It was referred to as	Chille	Nov 2021	#41
No	Lettuce Be	Nov 2021	#22
I'll believe it when I see it.	panader0	Nov 2021	#24
No, this will get nothing through...the leverage wasn't there and it never will be...	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#36
Yes, it was a mistake. Look at the candidates who lost	Nixie	Nov 2021	#25
Manchin and Sinema are full of shit, not on solid ground	Silent3	Nov 2021	#30
Bernie did not make it through a Democratic primary	Nixie	Nov 2021	#31
It should have been passed in September and may McAuliffe would have won if we had.	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#37
Yes they did. They tried to use it as leverage which won't work and makes us look bad.	Demsrule86	Nov 2021	#32
I don't think so. I understand why they did it. It was the only leverage they had.	In It to Win It	Nov 2021	#33
Yes, they did.	JoanofArgh	Nov 2021	#34
No! And the gaslighting that's going on here on DU to pretend otherwise is gross	Blaukraut	Nov 2021	#40
It doesn't really matter that it was only Manchin and Sinema.	panader0	Nov 2021	#45
Your Closing Point, Ma'am, Is Distressingly Apt	The Magistrate	Nov 2021	#47
+10000000000000000	Celerity	Nov 2021	#50
This message was self-deleted by its author	DiamondShark	Nov 2021	#51
no nt	Celerity	Nov 2021	#49

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