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In reply to the discussion: With BIF passed and no leverage for sinema and manchin to vote for BBB [View all]Silent3
(15,183 posts)10. I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised, but I will indeed be suprised if BBB gets anywhere now
If BBB does eventually get past the obstructionist duo, it'll be a pale shadow of the already-watered-down-from-$3.5T-to-$1.75T bill.
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With BIF passed and no leverage for sinema and manchin to vote for BBB [View all]
ColinC
Nov 2021
OP
We could win....but not if some do what was done in 10 to President Obama and they stay
Demsrule86
Nov 2021
#48
You really think there was effective leverage against Sinema and Manchin there?
RockRaven
Nov 2021
#3
I want to imagine that most Democrats voted for BIF because they have an understanding
In It to Win It
Nov 2021
#4
BBB is dead. The conservative Dems in the House will now kill it before Manchin/Sinema can.
LonePirate
Nov 2021
#11
I think you are wrong. I believe holding the other bill hostage hurt us in Virginia and hampered
Demsrule86
Nov 2021
#49
There is no momentum. BBB is dead. The conservatives Dems & Repubs will now kill it in the House.
LonePirate
Nov 2021
#13
So it's dead, and none of it will be enacted? Respectfully think you are too pessimistic.
Hoyt
Nov 2021
#15
None of it will be enacted. Conservs kill it in the House. M/S & filibuster kill things in Senate.
LonePirate
Nov 2021
#17
The fact that he called for a CBO on the BBB should have been a red flag
wellst0nev0ter
Nov 2021
#23
Was BIF -- a Bipartisan bill sure to pass unless we screwed it up -- sold as deficit free?
Hoyt
Nov 2021
#27
No, we've passed meaningful legislation, with more to come, in deeply divided country.
Hoyt
Nov 2021
#31
Actually, piling a bunch of stuff -- no matter how good -- into one bill was probably
Hoyt
Nov 2021
#36
Make GOPers vote against child care, etc. It's too easy to vote against a $2 Trillion mishmash.
Hoyt
Nov 2021
#44
I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised, but I will indeed be suprised if BBB gets anywhere now
Silent3
Nov 2021
#10
I am bookmarking this thread to hear what happens if the BBB passes. It may not have some
JohnSJ
Nov 2021
#12
I think so too Hoyt. There are political realities involved that I would hope some would understand
JohnSJ
Nov 2021
#19
I agree Hoyt. And the infrastructure bill is a good bill and passing a bipartisan bill hasn't been
Demsrule86
Nov 2021
#51
And? 1.75 trillion is pretty substantial. I swear I will be so delighted I may do cartwheels.
Demsrule86
Nov 2021
#53