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George II

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43. I've never seen so many people so disappointed that a Democratic bill passed - a bill we've been....
Sat Nov 6, 2021, 09:01 AM
Nov 2021

...waiting for since Obama left office.

If you believe that (which I don't)... brooklynite Nov 2021 #1
Manchin didn't make his play "weeks ago" leftstreet Nov 2021 #2
Manchin made his play in July. In writing. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #40
it worked enough qazplm135 Nov 2021 #5
We could win....but not if some do what was done in 10 to President Obama and they stay Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #48
Loyalty works both ways qazplm135 Nov 2021 #54
What was going to work? dpibel Nov 2021 #18
You really think there was effective leverage against Sinema and Manchin there? RockRaven Nov 2021 #3
I want to imagine that most Democrats voted for BIF because they have an understanding In It to Win It Nov 2021 #4
I think it's because Sinema has finally qazplm135 Nov 2021 #7
It is dead Bettie Nov 2021 #6
we don't remotely know that yet qazplm135 Nov 2021 #8
BBB is dead. The conservative Dems in the House will now kill it before Manchin/Sinema can. LonePirate Nov 2021 #11
again qazplm135 Nov 2021 #24
I agree. nt. Hotler Nov 2021 #46
I think you are wrong. I believe holding the other bill hostage hurt us in Virginia and hampered Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #49
Not necessarily. Worst case, they'll have to break some items out separately. Hoyt Nov 2021 #9
There is no momentum. BBB is dead. The conservatives Dems & Repubs will now kill it in the House. LonePirate Nov 2021 #13
So it's dead, and none of it will be enacted? Respectfully think you are too pessimistic. Hoyt Nov 2021 #15
None of it will be enacted. Conservs kill it in the House. M/S & filibuster kill things in Senate. LonePirate Nov 2021 #17
I don't think so. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #50
What has changed that makes you think Bettie Nov 2021 #55
I read somewhere that Jayapal got written assurances AZSkiffyGeek Nov 2021 #20
+1. I'd be surprised, even ticked, if Manchin, etc., reneged on that. Hoyt Nov 2021 #21
The fact that he called for a CBO on the BBB should have been a red flag wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #23
The fact anyone is opposed to a CBO report concerns me when it's been Hoyt Nov 2021 #25
They didn't care about the CBO for the BIF wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #26
Was BIF -- a Bipartisan bill sure to pass unless we screwed it up -- sold as deficit free? Hoyt Nov 2021 #27
That's the point, goops and didn't care if BIF was not revenue neutral wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #29
No, we've passed meaningful legislation, with more to come, in deeply divided country. Hoyt Nov 2021 #31
We passed a bigger relief bill in the beginning of the year wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #33
The chaos created by linking the two bills together, didn't help. Hoyt Nov 2021 #34
Bills should not have been separated in the first place wellst0nev0ter Nov 2021 #35
Actually, piling a bunch of stuff -- no matter how good -- into one bill was probably Hoyt Nov 2021 #36
+++ JohnSJ Nov 2021 #14
And how will they "break items out separately"... regnaD kciN Nov 2021 #39
Make GOPers vote against child care, etc. It's too easy to vote against a $2 Trillion mishmash. Hoyt Nov 2021 #44
They won't have to vote against it Bettie Nov 2021 #56
OK, let's just sulk. Hoyt Nov 2021 #57
I'm willing to be pleasantly surprised, but I will indeed be suprised if BBB gets anywhere now Silent3 Nov 2021 #10
I am bookmarking this thread to hear what happens if the BBB passes. It may not have some JohnSJ Nov 2021 #12
+1. Something decent will pass. Hoyt Nov 2021 #16
I think so too Hoyt. There are political realities involved that I would hope some would understand JohnSJ Nov 2021 #19
I agree Hoyt. And the infrastructure bill is a good bill and passing a bipartisan bill hasn't been Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #51
"Rest assured," huh? mcar Nov 2021 #22
"...no leverage for sinema and manchin to vote for BBB" myohmy2 Nov 2021 #28
I have said for months...we never had leverage of any sort. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #52
There wasn't any "leverage" to begin with. gulliver Nov 2021 #30
Exactly Sunsky Nov 2021 #42
I think Pelosi has a better grasp of events SCantiGOP Nov 2021 #32
I am suddenly hearing Og the leprechaun from "Finian's Rainbow". niyad Nov 2021 #37
BBB is DOA budkin Nov 2021 #38
A BBB bill will pass at some point. It will be written in the Senate. Tomconroy Nov 2021 #41
And? 1.75 trillion is pretty substantial. I swear I will be so delighted I may do cartwheels. Demsrule86 Nov 2021 #53
I've never seen so many people so disappointed that a Democratic bill passed - a bill we've been.... George II Nov 2021 #43
Is that you, Debbie Downer? MineralMan Nov 2021 #45
I think it's Debbie's gloomy little brother, Wilfred Werefucked. 11 Bravo Nov 2021 #62
LOL! MineralMan Nov 2021 #63
I trust Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden karynnj Nov 2021 #47
Agree. Dead and deader. Doremus Nov 2021 #58
can't always get what you want RussBLib Nov 2021 #59
Next year we're electing more and better Democrats to Congress FakeNoose Nov 2021 #60
Dealing with a republican house will be even worse of course, but if we can ColinC Nov 2021 #61
FUCK THAT PROGNOSTICATION Shellback Squid Nov 2021 #64
When BBB passes will you post a mea culpa? honest.abe Nov 2021 #65
We'll see JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #66
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