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28. Maybe those job numbers plus getting

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Sat Nov 6, 2021, 03:39 PM

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at least one of the bills passed would have made a difference. Democrats looked incompetent (announcing votes and then having to reschedule when the votes weren't there, one side making demands, then some more demands, back and forth with no progress). I think any bill would have been a major boost for the Dems running. To a large degree it's about framing the debate.

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I wonder if Terry would have won ... [View all] DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 OP

Possibly MustLoveBeagles Nov 2021 #1

You could well be right a month earlier would have helped bottomofthehill Nov 2021 #2

It would have been hard to portray Biden as incompetent, weak, etc. empedocles Nov 2021 #3

Hopefully things will be better by the mid-terms. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #4

Hopefully . . . will learn from these unnecessary losses. empedocles Nov 2021 #6

I see some criticism of him as a candidate DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #9

I think the criticism of him as a candidate is as misplaced, maybe more so, spooky3 Nov 2021 #17

I take It you're a Virginian. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #18

I live in NoVA, and I agree with you. Nt spooky3 Nov 2021 #19

He ran away from the successful record of Democrats in Virginia the past two years. onenote Nov 2021 #34

I also would have much preferred for him to do spooky3 Nov 2021 #36

Good point. Nt spooky3 Nov 2021 #10

I think so. Racism and lies contributed, but people's perceptions that spooky3 Nov 2021 #5

The culture wars are what got TFG elected. Without KPN Nov 2021 #7

How many of the idiots NoRethugFriends Nov 2021 #8

We beat the TFG by ten point there last year and Northam beat Gillespie by 9 in the last gov race. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #11

Yes, it would have swayed at least one in a hundred. Beakybird Nov 2021 #12

The rosiest scenario DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #13

I can't see ANY President having a mid 50's approval after the "Honeymoon Period" WarGamer Nov 2021 #15

Doubtful. WarGamer Nov 2021 #14

There was a bigger falloff from 2020 in NJ but Murphy had a bigger cushion. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #16

Exactly. And Dems lost the Lt Gov and Attorney General spooky3 Nov 2021 #21

It likely made a very small difference at the margins. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #26

Totally agree. Dem turnout was good, but Rep turnout went WAY spooky3 Nov 2021 #29

I think Joe Biden's answer - which was essentially that we can not know karynnj Nov 2021 #20

Ads like those you described were ALL OVER the TV in NoVA spooky3 Nov 2021 #22

Thanks - I had not read that and was not in that area karynnj Nov 2021 #24

Please, no apology! One of the ads showed Youngkin telling spooky3 Nov 2021 #32

Biden was at 43% approval in VA exits. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #23

Also young voters didn't turn out as well either. triron Nov 2021 #30

Agree we can't know. We CAN know right and wrong, though. nt Hortensis Nov 2021 #25

And what if all the good news on the economy (jobs and unemployment) had come out? triron Nov 2021 #27

Maybe those job numbers plus getting Hav Nov 2021 #28

Highly unlikely. But Terry might have done better if he had run on how well Virginia is doing onenote Nov 2021 #31

Youngkin framed the budget surplus as showing Virginians' taxes were too high. Nt spooky3 Nov 2021 #35

Jonathan Lemire suggested on MSNBC Qutzupalotl Nov 2021 #33

A lot of us thought that, too--the one silver lining. Nt spooky3 Nov 2021 #37

I agree it wasn't the CRT not really, this is about racism and white supremacy PortTack Nov 2021 #38

The culture war crap didn't prevent us from winning VA by 10 points in 2020 DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2021 #39

Whose to blame? Girl powers Nov 2021 #40

Who's not whose, sorry it's VERY early in the am. Girl powers Nov 2021 #41