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Gee, I heard on TV that Youngkin won a resounding victory, and Murphy barely squeaked by Walleye Nov 2021 #1
Right? I must have something wrong ColinC Nov 2021 #2
Sort of like when TFG called 306 electoral votes a landslide Walleye Nov 2021 #3
And when Biden also got 306 EV's, the media called it close! Polybius Nov 2021 #4
There was nothing close about the popular vote, though. Prof. Toru Tanaka Nov 2021 #14
Well considering Murphy led in the polls by nearly ten points... Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #6
So the polls were wrong. They often are Walleye Nov 2021 #7
Yup. Gotta figure out how we nearly lost a reliably blue state. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #8
All true. Walleye Nov 2021 #10
Losing off year elections after presidential elections for the president's party ColinC Nov 2021 #12
Nope. No one expected losing NJ - or that it would be closer. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #16
Ok you are right about the polls in NJ but the polls in VA were actually closing ColinC Nov 2021 #23
The polls narrowed closer to the election ColinC Nov 2021 #9
Nope. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #19
The pre-election polls generally showed Murphy with between 49 and 51 percent. onenote Nov 2021 #11
The margins were not close. At all. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #17
The polls missed Ciaterrelli's support onenote Nov 2021 #24
Which is even more damning. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #25
I'm not suggesting the result wasn't bad onenote Nov 2021 #27
I beg to differ. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #34
Not really lees1975 Nov 2021 #43
Youngkin seemed consistently very close to McCauliffe. lagomorph777 Nov 2021 #48
All the media wants to do is attack the Democrats and portray repukes are for the kimbutgar Nov 2021 #5
Yep JustAnotherGen Nov 2021 #13
Who Cares? SoCalDavidS Nov 2021 #15
I would not trust a poll ever again, they are a mess. sunonmars Nov 2021 #18
not so much in terms of predicting the NJ Dem's per cent, in that they were pretty damn accurate Celerity Nov 2021 #28
GOP's Ciattarelli Digs In Despite Murphy's 65,000-Vote N.J. Lead -Another asshole who won't concede spanone Nov 2021 #20
But isn't NJ a dark blue like +20 D State? WarGamer Nov 2021 #21
No. (n/t) SMC22307 Nov 2021 #22
Interesting you did not give the stats. former9thward Nov 2021 #29
thanks, I suspected something like that! WarGamer Nov 2021 #36
Yes former9thward Nov 2021 #30
Yes but with a very strong history of electing republicants ColinC Nov 2021 #31
THIS. LowerManhattanite Nov 2021 #44
+16 D, and yes, other than fat fuck Christie the Rethugs haven't won state-wide for 24 years Celerity Nov 2021 #32
Presidential GOP candidates usually run far to the right of the state. Governor candidates do not. ColinC Nov 2021 #39
Not when it comes to Governors JI7 Nov 2021 #33
Beyond Christie, no Republican has won that state in 20 years. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #35
Your post demonstrates quite well that historically NJ is not a +16 D state for governors ColinC Nov 2021 #38
Only one Democrat has won by fewer than ten points - Murphy this past November. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #40
Sure. But the claim being debated is whether it is a +16 D state ColinC Nov 2021 #42
The claim is more correct than not. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #45
Just because you have a partisan advantage in registration ColinC Nov 2021 #47
No but the history of New Jersey certainly points to that. Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #49
You are absolutely right. ColinC Nov 2021 #50
I do agree. I wish Jack Ciattarelli was more of that mold... Drunken Irishman Nov 2021 #52
Since Philly is still South Jersey's media market BumRushDaShow Nov 2021 #51
omg! Doom & Gloomers Cha Nov 2021 #26
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2021 #37
K&R UTUSN Nov 2021 #41
We were supposed to win NJ comfortably from the outset. n/m BradAllison Nov 2021 #46
I like to think anything above 51% is comfortable ColinC Nov 2021 #53
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