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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
65. Well, it's a lot better and worse according to local cultures.
Thu Nov 25, 2021, 10:06 AM
Nov 2021

Right? More, it's important to remember the extremely important role our federal legal system plays in keeping local governments from becoming too representative of the flaws of local authorities. Our federal laws set a generally high standard according to the times, even with Republican sabotage every time they get the power. Failures are mostly in application.

That said, we live in GA these days, and I believe the jury would have returned the same general verdicts for a case that was only reported locally, a testiment to both the jurors and to the fact that their choices were channeled and defined by GA's legal system. I mean, come on. The evidence was extremely strong.

The big problem with selecting a jury was that, overwhelmingly, people already believed Arbery had been hunted down and murdered. (What does that say about those manipulators who claim to be relieved that a white southern jury didn't demand Arbery be dug up and lynched?)

Now, the initial attempts of local authorities to shield the murderers from justice -- one of whom was a former deputy sheriff and investigator for the DA's office -- if not expected were at least not surprising. This is GA and conservative authoritarianism runs strong, nowhere more so than in authorities themselves. A third of Georgians are black, btw, and many communities run by black-dominated governments.

In any case, low expectations lead to low standards, and low standards never create high ones. I think we need to know what we do right so bad people can't drag our expectations down to what works for them.

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All three guilty of murder. [View all] sinkingfeeling Nov 2021 OP
Fry those murdering thugs oswaldactedalone Nov 2021 #1
Was it a capital case? BlackSkimmer Nov 2021 #4
No, it was not. RockRaven Nov 2021 #17
Yes and No Brother Buzz Nov 2021 #21
Along with Darrell Brooks, who murdered six in Waukesha? whathehell Nov 2021 #19
WI doesn't have capital punishment geardaddy Nov 2021 #25
That's good, because I don't believe in capital punishment. whathehell Nov 2021 #30
Neither do I geardaddy Nov 2021 #35
Good.. whathehell Nov 2021 #38
Yes geardaddy Nov 2021 #41
I'm with you and whatthehell. ShazzieB Nov 2021 #62
That's a great graphic! geardaddy Nov 2021 #67
Not an option. Minimum of 30 yr and maybe parole then if judge allows it during sentencing. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2021 #29
Maybe Trump will go visit them lame54 Nov 2021 #2
FOX won't mention any of this BradAllison Nov 2021 #9
Top story on the Fox website. OnlinePoker Nov 2021 #55
Maybe they will be Fox News special guests from jail? LeftInTX Nov 2021 #12
he might be a resident ? monkeyman1 Nov 2021 #26
Let's hope it's a long long visit lame54 Nov 2021 #27
"Maybe Trump will go visit them" LudwigPastorius Nov 2021 #37
Or maybe he'll be in a federal prison cell next to them. MoonRiver Nov 2021 #57
Some Justice done! electric_blue68 Nov 2021 #3
YES! Faux pas Nov 2021 #5
K & R Budi Nov 2021 #6
K&R UTUSN Nov 2021 #7
Three separate prisons NQAS Nov 2021 #8
I hope the message is sent. nolabear Nov 2021 #10
FINALLY MOMFUDSKI Nov 2021 #11
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Nov 2021 #13
I am genuinely shocked KentuckyWoman Nov 2021 #14
I'm not. Unlike the Rittenhouse trial, this was open and shut. Dial H For Hero Nov 2021 #20
If there was no video the men would've walked. radius777 Nov 2021 #64
If this was a legal forum, probably no one would be surprised. Hortensis Nov 2021 #58
Sadly KentuckyWoman Nov 2021 #63
Well, it's a lot better and worse according to local cultures. Hortensis Nov 2021 #65
Thank you for this. KentuckyWoman Nov 2021 #66
I looked up the judge and he was appointed by a Dem gov. C Moon Nov 2021 #60
justice has been served......... Takket Nov 2021 #15
Good Demovictory9 Nov 2021 #16
Some relief for his beautiful Mom. BeckyDem Nov 2021 #18
The journey of a thousand miles Jerry2144 Nov 2021 #22
This is huge. geardaddy Nov 2021 #23
May they find humility in a diverse prison population RainCaster Nov 2021 #24
Next up former prosecutor Jackie Johnson tulipsandroses Nov 2021 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Nov 2021 #39
She's been arrested geardaddy Nov 2021 #44
So much this. And those racist AF defence attorneys need to be investigated and punished somehow Celerity Nov 2021 #45
I am in awe of his parents who would not give up tulipsandroses Nov 2021 #31
Excellent prosecutor and a competent judge PatSeg Nov 2021 #32
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Nov 2021 #33
Guess the RW nut jobs won't be celebrating KS Toronado Nov 2021 #34
Hadn't thought of it, but who is Tucker going to interview? JohnnyRingo Nov 2021 #50
There will not be a word from TC or anyone at Faux. Boomerproud Nov 2021 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Nov 2021 #36
Yes! IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2021 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author ExTex Nov 2021 #42
GA whites know not to provoke racial unrest when they're only 52% non-Hispanic white. ancianita Nov 2021 #46
God Damn Right they are. Mister Ed Nov 2021 #43
TFG has a sad. moondust Nov 2021 #47
Good for the state of Georgia. They've shown independence from the deep south. JohnnyRingo Nov 2021 #48
good blogslug Nov 2021 #49
GOOD. What a relief. nt crickets Nov 2021 #51
Recommended. H2O Man Nov 2021 #52
Good DashOneBravo Nov 2021 #54
...K&R... spanone Nov 2021 #56
I have a lawyer's skepticism about the ability of jury's to consistently find a just result. TomSlick Nov 2021 #59
When Chris Cuomo had them on CNN right after BigmanPigman Nov 2021 #61
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