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meadowlander

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57. The point is
Wed Dec 8, 2021, 12:15 AM
Dec 2021

.5% of the population is transgender. Conservatively, .00015% of the population plays college or professional sports or competes at an elite level in national or international competitions.

So why so much media attention (mostly on Fox BTW) to an issue that impacts, at best, .0000007% of people? Because the people pulling the media's strings would much rather we all sit around arguing with each other about this and not the fact that our planet is going to being uninhabitable in 100 years or that income inequality and corruption are destroying this country.

Let trans people play on whatever team they want to play on. Problem solved. It's not like all sports aren't already completely arbitrary and meaningless anyway. Why do we care that a man who eats a keto protein power diet and sleeps upside down and wears engineered shoes has a "legitimate" record but a man who huffs oxygen or takes steroids should have his record thrown out? Who gets to compete or not compete is already an arbitrary shit show of "this supplement good, this supplement bad" "you can wear this, you can't wear that" "this move is legal, that slightly different move is illegal".

As much as you obviously want to drag this discussion into personal attacks, it isn't about me or my experience. It's about our inability as a society to stay focused on and devote resources to the things that actually make a difference at the macro level. And objectively sports isn't one of them.

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Oh look, the hand grenade got repurposed and... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #1
Would it have been an astounding performance if Michael Phelps did it? milestogo Dec 2021 #2
Life isn't easy. We have to adapt to differences. jimfields33 Dec 2021 #3
. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #4
XX vs XY doesnt work as well as you might think. SYFROYH Dec 2021 #5
+1. it ain't as simple as all that. stopdiggin Dec 2021 #9
Xx or xy would be fair questionseverything Dec 2021 #6
Women competing against women is fair. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #7
Have you ever competed against a woman in a sport? Casady1 Dec 2021 #11
Why does that matter? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #13
They are trying to bait you. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #14
If you were Casady1 Dec 2021 #27
So the woman born a woman gets to be second class? questionseverything Dec 2021 #54
Because if you had Casady1 Dec 2021 #16
Yes, one player can certainly dominate another, no matter what gender either one is. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #29
Name a single sport Casady1 Dec 2021 #37
Why? We're talking about women competing against women, and men competing against men. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #39
Olympic level women could kick all of our asses iemanja Dec 2021 #34
at the professional level Casady1 Dec 2021 #42
It's an interesting exercise kwolf68 Dec 2021 #8
Have you ever competed against a woman in a sport? Casady1 Dec 2021 #10
Genetics aren't the only thing that determine secondary sex characteristics. meadowlander Dec 2021 #17
You obviously never competed Casady1 Dec 2021 #28
I did actually. I was even a referee for awhile. meadowlander Dec 2021 #44
Oh Brother Casady1 Dec 2021 #46
The point is meadowlander Dec 2021 #57
Sports are not fair. PurgedVoter Dec 2021 #12
How many short people play basketball? Casady1 Dec 2021 #20
If you get out and play on a local court you may meet some. PurgedVoter Dec 2021 #40
I have Casady1 Dec 2021 #43
We're talking about top caliber athletes iemanja Dec 2021 #55
I don't know the answer to the question I posed. Lucid Dreamer Dec 2021 #15
As a transgender woman vercetti2021 Dec 2021 #18
There is no chance that Coed sports Casady1 Dec 2021 #21
Never know vercetti2021 Dec 2021 #22
Put them in the MMA cage with... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #24
Not even Casady1 Dec 2021 #30
in most sports, unfortunately iemanja Dec 2021 #25
not most all Casady1 Dec 2021 #38
Thanx. Lucid Dreamer Dec 2021 #31
No, it would not Ohio Joe Dec 2021 #19
C'mon Casady1 Dec 2021 #23
what about a "class 1 and class 2" system? Takket Dec 2021 #26
Sounds reasonable to me. LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #35
And then... Zeitghost Dec 2021 #41
So you're against... LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #45
I think they are pointing out an unscrupulous man could intentionally Takket Dec 2021 #48
How do you determine those average times? iemanja Dec 2021 #47
The problem is Class 2 then isn't going to be women. Dr. Strange Dec 2021 #50
Men will dominate both classes questionseverything Dec 2021 #52
Ludicrous Casady1 Dec 2021 #32
I've been wondering what would happen with this for a while iemanja Dec 2021 #33
Sex vs gender Zeitghost Dec 2021 #36
It's not that simple, because how do you determine sex? WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #49
Two divisions Zeitghost Dec 2021 #58
No. Iggo Dec 2021 #51
Maybe we should worry about sports competition less... Bucky Dec 2021 #53
Seriously? iemanja Dec 2021 #56
After decades of progress in the fight for equality in women's sports Zeitghost Dec 2021 #59
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