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102. Wow, that went in a weird direction

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Trump paused student loan payments while Biden restarted them [View all] wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 OP

It's accurate. Cuthbert Allgood Dec 2021 #1

He ran on this? mcar Dec 2021 #2

Yes wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #6

So it's been sent to his desk as a law mcar Dec 2021 #18

Is that you, Jen Psaki? wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #22

No, he can't. Tommymac Dec 2021 #47

+1 (last two sentences get extra +1) betsuni Dec 2021 #50

Your snark notwithstanding... Orrex Dec 2021 #58

Absolutely this. And to pretend otherwise with blind support is self immolation. nt Doremus Dec 2021 #60

1,000,000+++ FlyingPiggy Dec 2021 #142

Your statement is accurate. CentralMass Dec 2021 #3

Biden's approval with The Youngs are now at Obama midterm territory wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #4

The age range for millennials is 25 to 40 Revanchist Dec 2021 #8

Source is at the bottom of the chart wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #9

Post removed Post removed Dec 2021 #23

Walk me through how he has the power? mahina Dec 2021 #5

Ask Chuck Schumer wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #7

+1 Celerity Dec 2021 #37

My son absolutely loathes Biden for this. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #10

I share his frustrations wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #11

Does he not qualify for any of the income-based repayment plans? W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #13

Enlighten us about the income-based plans wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #15

With that sort of attitude, you can (and really should) enlighten yourself. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #19

You still accrue interest and you're stuck with a larger tax bill wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #27

It's not a half-measure. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #30

Also, if you get married, your payment goes up wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #32

Yep The Revolution Dec 2021 #103

Income-based repayment plans assume a 5% raise in income every year. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #17

That's false. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #24

On the StudentAid.gov website, if you're trying to calculate what your IDR will be, the estimate WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #36

That is just to estimate what your payment plan would look like. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #130

The IBR plans are a double edged sword. Xolodno Dec 2021 #48

I think my son feels the same way about Biden helpisontheway Dec 2021 #25

Most politicians worry about getting elected Polybius Dec 2021 #65

My son feels the same way! He's always been a liberal democrat but sees this as a betrayal liberal_mama Dec 2021 #35

This is a huge problem that we must acknowledge is real Polybius Dec 2021 #64

It just shows how fickle everyone is. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #12

Here's what will happen: wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #14

There is no reason whatsoever to believe that it will win them over. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #26

So you're ignoring how young voters put Biden into office? wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #29

Biden has done lots already for them and others. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #31

Most will only remember the $1400 check wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #33

Then they're fucking stupid. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #132

Your link defines young voters as 18-29. AncientAndy Dec 2021 #40

Means testing doesn't win you votes wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #42

Neither would unfair benefits. AncientAndy Dec 2021 #44

Win more election, cancel more debt wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #45

That doesn't make a lot sense. AncientAndy Dec 2021 #51

Sounds like fishing for an excuse to do nothing wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #52

How does that sound like an excuse to do nothing? AncientAndy Dec 2021 #55

It's being used as a populist purity test, like Medicare for All was. betsuni Dec 2021 #61

At this point we won't even get the public option wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #62

"Thanks to the slavish insistence on adopting the fetal position"? betsuni Dec 2021 #69

There's the Do Something Caucus wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #71

Who are the Do Something Caucus? Ninety-nine point something percent of the Democratic Party? betsuni Dec 2021 #73

The Squad was right to vote down the infrastructure bill wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #87

"as we can see before us" betsuni Dec 2021 #88

I know following the news is hard wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #91

WHATABOUT betsuni Dec 2021 #92

I know this is amusing and all wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #95

What's "this"? betsuni Dec 2021 #97

Like Build Back Better wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #98

We've really got to stop meeting like this. betsuni Dec 2021 #100

We really have to take things seriously wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #101

FYI wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #109

Exactly. Thank God for Pelosi getting infrastructure passed Nixie Dec 2021 #107

As always, it's a half measure wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #63

As always, it's a blame Democrats. betsuni Dec 2021 #78

If Democrats lose in the midterm, whom will we blame? wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #85

"we"? betsuni Dec 2021 #89

Yes, as in we, the Democrats. wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #93

LOL betsuni Dec 2021 #94

Guess I'll take that as a "yes" wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #96

Well, since our relationship has gone this far and if that's a proposal, the answer is no. betsuni Dec 2021 #99

Wow, that went in a weird direction wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #102

I thought we had something special. You paused our relationship, that's how people betsuni Dec 2021 #104

I'm guessing this response made sense when it was originally workshopped wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #105

mulling? betsuni Dec 2021 #106

No, "muling" wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #110

Here is the main takeaway. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #20

Shame on you for saying that. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #28

I stand by my comment. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #34

+1. Not a winner for my Libertarian son w/big college debt. GPV Dec 2021 #38

This "be patient and wait" BS is insulting and condescending. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #39

You can't. Appeasing righties at the expense of our young. Stupid. GPV Dec 2021 #41

He is Libertarian and he wants the Govt to erase his Debt ? JI7 Dec 2021 #68

Hilarious and sad. betsuni Dec 2021 #70

Yes and people will make excuses for them voting Republican JI7 Dec 2021 #80

Yes, college-educated but Trump totally, like, paused student loan payments because he cared betsuni Dec 2021 #84

The costs shouldn't have been so high in the first place. He's not against debt, but thinks GPV Dec 2021 #77

Why doesn't he care about women's right to chose and voting rights ? JI7 Dec 2021 #79

He's on the spectrum. He GPV Dec 2021 #90

That is some hard truth there. We older Dems are loyal to the party because they did things Autumn Dec 2021 #129

It's not fickleness. It's the simple fact that young people are realizing they are fucked Autumn Dec 2021 #117

LOL, it's not a Republican talking point. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #131

Well if it's not a Republican talking point, it's an "I got mine so fuck you" thing. Just as bad. Autumn Dec 2021 #133

No, it's absolutely not. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #134

Do you know any young voters? nt Autumn Dec 2021 #135

Yes. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #137

I'm thinking you don't, you want to be nasty and make assumptions about me I throw that Autumn Dec 2021 #138

We are all facing problems. W_HAMILTON Dec 2021 #139

I agree getting more Republicans in public office won't fix the problem. So Democratic leadership Autumn Dec 2021 #140

This is going to hurt the economy, and Democrats' chances. It's really misguided. Debt relief is WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2021 #16

That is my son's argument in a nutshell. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #21

This article analyzes this complicated issue liberalmediaaddict Dec 2021 #43

Cancel the debt by executive order wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #46

So you don't actually care if the debt is cancelled? iemanja Dec 2021 #53

Don't take my word for it. Ask Chuck Schumer wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #66

Yes might as well try it mvd Dec 2021 #72

If they could pass a bill over the summer... Xolodno Dec 2021 #49

How about voting rights first? iemanja Dec 2021 #54

I'd like to hear how this would get past Manchin and Sinema and other Republicans Orrex Dec 2021 #56

We better take care of this now or we will truly get clobbered next November budkin Dec 2021 #57

And why should they still be suspended? TheFarseer Dec 2021 #59

Because INFLAAAATION wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #67

Inflation should actually help theoretically TheFarseer Dec 2021 #83

Okay, ignore the higher expenses and the decreasing affordability wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #86

Correct, inflation is good in the long run for people in debt madville Dec 2021 #136

Because their debt outpaces their wages in most cases? AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #74

I agree that we have a student loan problem TheFarseer Dec 2021 #82

Do young people care about climate change? mahina Dec 2021 #75

"hyped on Reddit and polished up to reduce complex reality to yet another grift. " JI7 Dec 2021 #81

Do old people? Act_of_Reparation Dec 2021 #114

I know so many who do and trust that young people are not so mahina Dec 2021 #119

Maybe trusting the next generation to pull us out of the hole we dug isn't really fair to them. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2021 #120

Clearly it's all hands and generations in deck mahina Dec 2021 #121

And just like that, insulting Democrats as wealthy over-educated coastal elites who don't care betsuni Dec 2021 #76

Sometimes, I think there are folks pretending to be on our side MineralMan Dec 2021 #108

Today is really not a good day to engage in contrived pieties against the "spiteful" wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #111

Yeah, OK, whatever. There is no good or bad day for the truth. MineralMan Dec 2021 #115

I started several threads on how to deal with Manchin wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #116

It's the belief others should bail you out because of your poor life decisions. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #122

Well, I wouldn't go that far. MineralMan Dec 2021 #124

Agree on the selling of college BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #125

The problem is that most people have no concept of MineralMan Dec 2021 #126

Educational costs should not be as high especially in a supposedly egalitarian society PufPuf23 Dec 2021 #127

Not sure who is advising him on this Thrill Dec 2021 #112

Simple things are difficult, apparently wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #113

You'll lose the young people for far much longer than the midterms. AngryOldDem Dec 2021 #118

Life's a bitch sometimes. BannonsLiver Dec 2021 #123

To whom are you directing the well wishes wellst0nev0ter Dec 2021 #128

I'm just not with this student loan forgiveness proposal. alcuno Dec 2021 #141