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janterry

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8. They ask for addicts/alcoholics to be clean/sober for
Sat Dec 18, 2021, 06:07 AM
Dec 2021

several months (6 months used to be the requirement to be placed on the list) prior to transplant.

They used to exclude them from the lists (I think back in the 80's??). But there was research into inclusion - and many (post transplant) were able to maintain their clean/sober lifestyle.

Anyway, I don't remember the year of the shift. It kind of evolved post research -

The problem wasn't the ethics of general treatment.....but rather the ethics of a large transplant list and not enough organs.

The initial thought was that many would simply relapse post-op and the organ would fail (why transplant to a person who would not use the organ for a long time - when it could go to someone who WOULD use it for a long time). Again, that seems not true following research. Many do very well post-transplant. So, that knowledge contributed to the change.

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Besides what would be the ethical cut off? LiberatedUSA Dec 2021 #1
Mickey Mantle for one. ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2021 #2
Yes, he got a liver transplant. ShazzieB Dec 2021 #4
David Crosby no_hypocrisy Dec 2021 #5
And Larry Hagman. nt BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #11
Mickey Mantle also had cancer which was advanced DFW Dec 2021 #7
Every time I think about him and his transplant, I think about Erma Bombeck, and how niyad Dec 2021 #22
I was amazed that Dick Cheney: DENVERPOPS Dec 2021 #9
A few others off the top of my head... FarPoint Dec 2021 #13
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this! ShazzieB Dec 2021 #3
Yes but Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #6
+1 ProfessorGAC Dec 2021 #25
They ask for addicts/alcoholics to be clean/sober for janterry Dec 2021 #8
Interesting summary and great points. Thanks. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Dec 2021 #26
K and r. BlackSkimmer Dec 2021 #10
THANK YOU ❤️ 👍 Raine Dec 2021 #12
My dentist was an alcoholic. piddyprints Dec 2021 #14
I know of 2 liver transplant cases, gab13by13 Dec 2021 #15
Lets take the analogy you propose a little bit further lapfog_1 Dec 2021 #16
Since you are evidently reacting to the discussion I started, let me clarify milestogo Dec 2021 #17
We are nowhere close to exhausting our resources. Bucky Dec 2021 #24
"Don't become what you despise." Talitha Dec 2021 #18
yes Skittles Dec 2021 #20
I basically agree but I hate Elessar Zappa Dec 2021 #19
I agree ENTIRELY. KentuckyWoman Dec 2021 #21
ha ha ha! Thank you for that! Bucky Dec 2021 #23
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