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In reply to the discussion: Joe Manchin votes with Republicans 54% of the time (from 2018) [View all]Celerity
(43,339 posts)25. Welp, you (it is usually another poster who used that as his go-to meme and failed every time) can't
claim Manchin as a 100%er anymore, lol.
Which of course he never was, as he was literally the most damaging Dem to Biden's agenda long before this hot steamer of a power play with BBB.
It was just that Manchin did his wrecking and blocking BEFORE final votes were taken, so his infidelity was not measured on the link's table.
That chart always was basically meaningless anyway, as the difference between a perfect record and the lowest score in the Senate for a Dem was only 2 votes for ages, now is only 3. Also NO final vote taken in the Senate or the House by a Dem ever blocked a Biden initiative at the end of day.
The closest any came was again...... drum roll..... Manchin, who sided with the Rethugs against Biden when they passed their anti vaxx resolution, but will be vetoed, and Manchin's voting partners, the Rethugs, do not (of course) have the votes to override.
Meaningless protest votes are DWARFED by Manchin's wreckage, blocking (he forced Neera Tanden to withdraw for OMB head consideration, for example), gutting, and all round obstructionism pre final vote (Sinema's too).
Which of course he never was, as he was literally the most damaging Dem to Biden's agenda long before this hot steamer of a power play with BBB.
It was just that Manchin did his wrecking and blocking BEFORE final votes were taken, so his infidelity was not measured on the link's table.
That chart always was basically meaningless anyway, as the difference between a perfect record and the lowest score in the Senate for a Dem was only 2 votes for ages, now is only 3. Also NO final vote taken in the Senate or the House by a Dem ever blocked a Biden initiative at the end of day.
The closest any came was again...... drum roll..... Manchin, who sided with the Rethugs against Biden when they passed their anti vaxx resolution, but will be vetoed, and Manchin's voting partners, the Rethugs, do not (of course) have the votes to override.
Meaningless protest votes are DWARFED by Manchin's wreckage, blocking (he forced Neera Tanden to withdraw for OMB head consideration, for example), gutting, and all round obstructionism pre final vote (Sinema's too).
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Welp, you (it is usually another poster who used that as his go-to meme and failed every time) can't
Celerity
Dec 2021
#25
I suspect that the majority of those were votes with overwhelming majorities.
BlueCheeseAgain
Dec 2021
#5
I mean it matters a lot. But only as much or almost as much as voting rights and
ColinC
Dec 2021
#10
Despite some big stuff not passing (still inconclusive on some), I do acknowledge that a lot of good
ColinC
Dec 2021
#28
B-b-but his fan club on DU claims he has a "100% Biden loyalty" voting record!
Fiendish Thingy
Dec 2021
#12
Most Senators, Members of Congress and Presidents would kill for Manchin's 62% approval rating.
Calista241
Dec 2021
#21
The last year is the most important. Until one vote last week he's voted with Biden 100%....
George II
Dec 2021
#30
I understand the claim to be we don't vote on legislation unless it has 51 votes to pass
ColinC
Dec 2021
#68
While technically true, she is low on the list of holdouts to transformative legislation like BBB
ColinC
Dec 2021
#74
And during the same period, Senator Sanders voted with Republicans 24% of the time
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#36
I rely professional statisticians and data analysts for valid, reliable information
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#43
Basic math can be done by both professional and non professional statististicians
ColinC
Dec 2021
#44
Of course even if we don't use my extrapolation, your source's larger data set shows Sanders has a
ColinC
Dec 2021
#47
Facts and expertise include all the facts. Something you seem relentless in not doing.
ColinC
Dec 2021
#55
Data analysis is complex & best left to experts. Statistical "conclusions" reached through dubious
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#56
Then cite all their data and include ALL their data. Don't be selective about it.
ColinC
Dec 2021
#57
The data is on FiveThirtyEight. What isn't there is an amateur compilation of unrelated data sets
lapucelle
Dec 2021
#58