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ColinC

(8,227 posts)
68. I understand the claim to be we don't vote on legislation unless it has 51 votes to pass
Tue Dec 21, 2021, 01:08 PM
Dec 2021

The 51st vote is usually Manchin.

Perhaps they think his not supporting a bill is equivalent to blocking it because it likely won't pass without him?


He's bragging about this?!? LoisB Dec 2021 #1
Yes. Apparently he ran on it. ColinC Dec 2021 #3
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Dec 2021 #24
Does Your Member Of Congress Vote With Or Against Biden? andym Dec 2021 #2
Not the point. The point is whether they vote with democrats. ColinC Dec 2021 #4
What? That's a fair question when dolling out criticism Budi Dec 2021 #13
I think the fairer question is how they get elected ColinC Dec 2021 #14
I don't think reasonable figures into the voting record of any Red State Budi Dec 2021 #15
He says it qazplm135 Dec 2021 #9
Welp, you (it is usually another poster who used that as his go-to meme and failed every time) can't Celerity Dec 2021 #25
I suspect that the majority of those were votes with overwhelming majorities. BlueCheeseAgain Dec 2021 #5
To be fair, I think it helped him win re election ColinC Dec 2021 #7
Yup. Its a ruby red state. He's been there long enough to know the game Budi Dec 2021 #16
My Senators vote R 100%. I'd be glad to have him in my state redstateblues Dec 2021 #6
And right now JustAnotherGen Dec 2021 #8
I mean it matters a lot. But only as much or almost as much as voting rights and ColinC Dec 2021 #10
Which wouldn't even be on the discussion table with Sen Maj Leader McConnell. Budi Dec 2021 #17
Yeah ColinC Dec 2021 #18
Truly sucks that he holds the stack of cards as he does. Budi Dec 2021 #23
Despite some big stuff not passing (still inconclusive on some), I do acknowledge that a lot of good ColinC Dec 2021 #28
Its a fragile fine line, but power is still in our hands. Budi Dec 2021 #29
Have you forgotten what it was like with Majority leader McConnell? karynnj Dec 2021 #69
BBB and Voting rights matter about as much or more than ColinC Dec 2021 #70
You imply it is a choice and your conclusion sees only the extremes karynnj Dec 2021 #76
Yeah I'm getting cynical. ColinC Dec 2021 #77
Wow. Bragging about supporting Trump. JFC. nt DLevine Dec 2021 #11
THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻 LenaBaby61 Dec 2021 #26
B-b-but his fan club on DU claims he has a "100% Biden loyalty" voting record! Fiendish Thingy Dec 2021 #12
His "fan club" doesn't see McConnell as an alternative. Budi Dec 2021 #27
:) I guess if someone's volunteered me I should take Hortensis Dec 2021 #71
And that is what remains when all the chatter & noise stops. Budi Dec 2021 #73
None of those who repeatedly insist we should get rid of Manchin Hortensis Dec 2021 #75
And probably 100% of the time when it counts... nt Colgate 64 Dec 2021 #19
If it counts and he doesn't support the bill, the bill does not go up to a vote ColinC Dec 2021 #20
Most Senators, Members of Congress and Presidents would kill for Manchin's 62% approval rating. Calista241 Dec 2021 #21
Sacrificing your principles to be liked is certainly impressive ColinC Dec 2021 #22
I think his principles just don't agree with ours. Calista241 Dec 2021 #40
The last year is the most important. Until one vote last week he's voted with Biden 100%.... George II Dec 2021 #30
The last year is anecdotal ColinC Dec 2021 #31
So what votes has he blocked? People keep saying that with no specifics .... George II Dec 2021 #65
I haven't heard anybody say he blocked any votes. ColinC Dec 2021 #66
There have been posts all over this site claiming it. George II Dec 2021 #67
I understand the claim to be we don't vote on legislation unless it has 51 votes to pass ColinC Dec 2021 #68
The 51st is Vice President Kamala Harris. George II Dec 2021 #72
While technically true, she is low on the list of holdouts to transformative legislation like BBB ColinC Dec 2021 #74
Your link says that Trump is still president. lapucelle Dec 2021 #32
My link is based on his career. Yours is anecdotal based on only a year. ColinC Dec 2021 #33
Your link is to an old, obsolete webpage that has Trump as president. lapucelle Dec 2021 #34
It's from 2018. it is what he ran on. ColinC Dec 2021 #35
And during the same period, Senator Sanders voted with Republicans 24% of the time lapucelle Dec 2021 #36
Manchin voted with Republicans almost 2.5 times as much as AOC. ColinC Dec 2021 #37
I'm sure Nate Silver will take it under advisement. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #38
He gave us the data already. Nothing to advise. ColinC Dec 2021 #39
Yes, Nate Silver has given us the data. lapucelle Dec 2021 #41
There have been 39 votes cast by Manchin this year. ColinC Dec 2021 #42
I rely professional statisticians and data analysts for valid, reliable information lapucelle Dec 2021 #43
Basic math can be done by both professional and non professional statististicians ColinC Dec 2021 #44
Easy extrapolation using basic math... lapucelle Dec 2021 #45
Which I did. ColinC Dec 2021 #46
This is why people rely on experts. lapucelle Dec 2021 #48
Extrapolation definition ColinC Dec 2021 #49
Of course even if we don't use my extrapolation, your source's larger data set shows Sanders has a ColinC Dec 2021 #47
Yes, it's probably preferable to leave your extrapolation out of it. lapucelle Dec 2021 #50
Or use a dictionary definition of the word instead of reaching for ColinC Dec 2021 #51
I trust experts like Nate Silver with complex topics like data analysis. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #52
Nate silver says ColinC Dec 2021 #53
Your original headline was innaccurate and you conceded that with the edit. lapucelle Dec 2021 #54
Facts and expertise include all the facts. Something you seem relentless in not doing. ColinC Dec 2021 #55
Data analysis is complex & best left to experts. Statistical "conclusions" reached through dubious lapucelle Dec 2021 #56
Then cite all their data and include ALL their data. Don't be selective about it. ColinC Dec 2021 #57
The data is on FiveThirtyEight. What isn't there is an amateur compilation of unrelated data sets lapucelle Dec 2021 #58
It is. Which is why I know you are being selective about it. ColinC Dec 2021 #59
There's nothing selective about the FiveThirtyEight's organization of unrelated data sets. N/T lapucelle Dec 2021 #60
That's why you included all the votes since 2017 included on 538, right? ColinC Dec 2021 #61
... lapucelle Dec 2021 #62
Relevant because he campaigned on that number ColinC Dec 2021 #64
K&R UTUSN Dec 2021 #63
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