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In reply to the discussion: The CDC no longer cares about spread of COViD [View all]Raftergirl
(1,856 posts)There is just too much virus out there and its too contagious.
I dont even think testing will make much of a difference now.
If you feel at all poorly stay home. If you know you have been around someone who has the virus stay home.
Dont go out to a NYE party or to a bar, restaurant, event. Stay home.
Wear a mask everywhere.
The UK is going to have to go the 5 day quarantine route very soon as there are just too many cases. Everything would shut down, and like here the medical industrial complex would implode due to lack of workers. Manufacturing and other sectors of the economy, too.
SA has already told people who are asymptomatic to stop testing and stop quarantining at all, because it cannot be controlled.
The good news is those who are vaxxed and vaxxed and boosted still seem to be only getting mild cases, though if you have only had two shots its worse than of boosted.
It is still the unvaccinated who are needing hospitalization and showing severe symptom.
From an ER doctor in NYC:
OMICRON VARIANT
NYC ER Doc Breaks Down How Omicron Affects the Boosted, Vaxxed and Unvaccinated
According to well-known Manhattan ER doctor Craig Spencer, the omicron variant can be as mild as a cold - with the right vaccinations
A growing body of scientific evidence suggest the omicron variant of COVID-19 is less severe than the delta variant -- but according to one prominent New York City emergency room physician, it all depends on what shots you've had.
Omicron is surging out of control in the city, with some Manhattan neighborhoods approaching 20% positivity rates, and hospitalizations doubling or more in recent weeks, particularly in children.
Against that backdrop, the city's emergency rooms are seeing a huge spike in patients - the asymptomatic seeking tests, the symptomatic who don't know where else to go and those in the ER for other reasons altogether who end up having COVID anyway.
Craig Spencer, a Manhattan ER doctor affiliated with Columbia University who became a Twitter superstar in the early days of the pandemic for his running commentary on the battle against the virus, tweeted a detailed breakdown late Sunday of what omicron cases look like.
Omicron symptoms by vaccine type
"Every patient Ive seen with Covid thats had a 3rd booster dose has had mild symptoms. By mild I mean mostly sore throat. Lots of sore throat. Also some fatigue, maybe some muscle pain. No difficulty breathing. No shortness of breath. All a little uncomfortable, but fine," Spencer wrote.
From there, it goes downhill - slowly, though.
"Most patients Ive seen that had 2 doses of Pfizer/Moderna still had mild symptoms, but more than those who had received a third dose. More fatigued. More fever. More coughing. A little more miserable overall. But no shortness of breath. No difficulty breathing. Mostly fine," he said.
For those who just had the one shot of the J&J vaccine and never took a booster, the situation isn't as good.
"Most patients Ive seen that had one dose of J&J and had Covid were worse overall. Felt horrible. Fever for a few days (or more). Weak, tired. Some shortness of breath and cough. But not one needing hospitalization. Not one needing oxygen. Not great. But not life-threatening," he tweeted.
And then there are the unvaccinated, who by all data are being hospitalized at a rate 15x or more the vaccinated.
"And almost every single patient that Ive taken care of that needed to be admitted for Covid has been unvaccinated. Every one with profound shortness of breath. Every one whose oxygen dropped when they walked. Every one needing oxygen to breath regularly," he said.
Spencer's recommendations were straightforward -- get vaccinated if you haven't, get a second dose of something else if you've had one J&J shot, and if you're eligible, get a booster.
"So no matter your political affiliation, or thoughts on masks, or where you live in this country, as an ER doctor youd trust with your life if you rolled into my emergency room at 3am, I promise you that youd rather face the oncoming Omicron wave vaccinated," Spencer concluded.
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/nyc-er-doc-breaks-down-how-omicron-affects-the-boosted-vaxxed-and-unvaccinated/3468742/?amp