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dwayneb

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Sat Jan 8, 2022, 01:31 PM Jan 2022

Smerconish poll of the day: Will US map be the same in 50 years? Thoughts? [View all]

This morning Smerconish question of the day was: "Will the map of the USA be the same in 50 years as it is today?"

Around 53% said no. About 47% said yes.

I'm with the "nos" on this. May be an uncomfortable opinion, but I believe that the neo-Fascist Right is on the way to assuming power in the US. I guess it's a "victory" for them if we consider usurping the Constitution and establishing an autocracy of one form or another as "winning".

The have the momentum, they have the roadmap for a successful coup, and they have the most powerful propaganda machine in history - the Internet. Plus I don't see the Left or the Democrats waking up in time to ensure the guardrails remain in place, they should have started on that in earnest a decade ago. And I don't see the ~40% of Americans that are fully apathetic with their noses buried in their electronic toys waking up either. By the time they do awaken they will be under the boot.

To me the real question is what happens AFTER the coup, we've already crossed the Rubicon about IF a rightwing coup will occur. If it's not 2024 it will be 2028 or 2032, but there is little doubt that we are steadily moving toward one-party rule here in the USA.

I used to think that secession was improbable, that we'd never see the breakup of the US as we now know it, but I no longer think that is true. Exactly how that will happen is the big question. Hard to imagine it can take place without civil war at some level; but there are quite a few that are advocating for having those discussions now, rather than descending into open warfare and needless bloodshed. Monied interests here in the USA would much rather have a diplomatic division than a civil war, that's for sure.

Thoughts?

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For starters, most of what is now Florida will be under water... unblock Jan 2022 #1
Not in the timeframe we are talking about here dwayneb Jan 2022 #8
I'm not sure Canada doesn't get annexed if the right wing gets full control of the u.s. unblock Jan 2022 #9
Agreed... dwayneb Jan 2022 #12
Large corporation are almost always supportive of authoritarian regimes unblock Jan 2022 #16
I hope we will be that long discussed, N.A.U. but done with consent not by force. ShazamIam Jan 2022 #2
NAU? dwayneb Jan 2022 #6
N.A.U. North American Union, it was being talked up big at the turn of the century. There was even a ShazamIam Jan 2022 #32
Red states rely heavily on Blue states. rickford66 Jan 2022 #3
The red states will split off and become 3rd world countries. The blue states ... Binkie The Clown Jan 2022 #4
The new map has been drawn. bronxiteforever Jan 2022 #5
Climate change is having devastating effects and will displace millions Willis88 Jan 2022 #18
We all drown together. If the 'doomsday' Thwaites Glacier goes bronxiteforever Jan 2022 #25
Thanks for the links! Interesting info and I most definitely will be looking up! Willis88 Jan 2022 #39
The map in Forbes doesn't go far enough FakeNoose Jan 2022 #21
Good points. bronxiteforever Jan 2022 #24
St. Louis Zeitghost Jan 2022 #27
OK FakeNoose Jan 2022 #29
Your concerns Zeitghost Jan 2022 #33
Looks like my property might be the new beach GoodRaisin Jan 2022 #28
The map you posted above has large errors misanthrope Jan 2022 #35
Sorry that your computer is broken. bronxiteforever Jan 2022 #38
Nothing wrong with my laptop misanthrope Jan 2022 #41
Smerconish won't be on it, so that's a plus. Tired of talking points from that guy (Nt) FreepFryer Jan 2022 #7
Forget about Smerconish dwayneb Jan 2022 #10
Nah. "The next civil war" is EXACTLY what the GOP and Putin want (Nt) FreepFryer Jan 2022 #11
That's the point dwayneb Jan 2022 #13
Then I'm not sure why your OP asks whether we agree w Smerconish and not GOP / Putin. FreepFryer Jan 2022 #15
This. Tommymac Jan 2022 #36
Canada and Mexico will be in deep discussion about their new common border... hunter Jan 2022 #14
I don't agree with the premise Buckeyeblue Jan 2022 #17
Sea levels are rising Hekate Jan 2022 #19
With any luck, this will be my home: Aristus Jan 2022 #20
And how are you getting control of Canada? brooklynite Jan 2022 #23
Not an uncomfortable opinion; just a pointless one..... brooklynite Jan 2022 #22
They'll stay out of Chicago, if they know what's good for them. Progressive Jones Jan 2022 #26
I'm a "no" on that. No way the country is still intact in 50 years. Crunchy Frog Jan 2022 #30
Yes, probably. Might add a couple states, PR+VI and DC usually Hortensis Jan 2022 #31
We'll be Balkanized. AngryOldDem Jan 2022 #34
No, Puerto Rico & DC will be States. Disagree entirely with the OP's doom & gloom framing re the QOP Tommymac Jan 2022 #37
I like this post. hunter Jan 2022 #42
This Greybnk48 Jan 2022 #43
I don't watch or listen to anything that guy has to say. Demsrule86 Jan 2022 #40
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