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captain queeg

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7. I'd never heard the argument that the Japanese were put in camps for their own protection

Mon Jan 10, 2022, 07:18 PM

Jan 2022

I doubt that was the motivator but it probably did serve that purpose. The Japanese armed forces were extremely brutal. I imagine if word got back to America there’d be those willing to take vengeance on civilians.

WWII was certainly partially a race war. Also a resource war. I’d read a guy who’d interviewed Goering at Nuremberg. Goering said they’d never have used the atomic bomb on Germany. He might have been right. Not just because they were white Europeans though. Germany couldn’t be physically isolated the way Japan was.

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And Edward Albert was just insufferable, as Heston's son. (nt) Paladin Jan 2022 #81

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I'd never heard the argument that the Japanese were put in camps for their own protection captain queeg Jan 2022 #7

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Oh no! XanaDUer2 Jan 2022 #11

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Stay tuned hon. BlackSkimmer Jan 2022 #98

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it gets tedious at times CatWoman Jan 2022 #47

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Yeah I lost the original link, I went back and did more spacing, that should help EX500rider Jan 2022 #64

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