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bullwinkle428

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41. Okay, if you want to have a discussion on statistics, let's talk SHEER NUMBERS,

Mon Jan 17, 2022, 08:31 PM

Jan 2022

not rates, and look at the state of Illinois, for example.

In very blue Cook County, Trump received 558K votes. In four small, very red counties near me (Carroll, Whiteside [LOL], Henry, and Mercer), Trump received a TOTAL of around 40K. So, sure, Cook County is "blue as fuck", but there are still TONS of Republicans that live and vote there.

When it comes to looking at deaths due to COVID, I can't make even the slightest claim that "Trump is losing this many voters per day" but we absolutely know two things for sure.

1. When broken down by party affiliation, Democrats have been much been at getting vaccinated.

2. The hospitals are not getting filled up with vaccinated people.

Here are the voting numbers if you want to verify.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Illinois

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] WarGamer Jan 2022 OP

I wouldn't bet the bank on it... TheRealNorth Jan 2022 #1

Correlation study NPR performed for both vaccination rates and deaths by county vs Trump support hlthe2b Jan 2022 #5

Thanks for posting. nt Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #11

Excellent. Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #30

Interesting. Seems to coincide with expectations captain queeg Jan 2022 #37

Check this out WarGamer Jan 2022 #75

Neal deGrasse Tyson posted something on Twitter about... SKKY Jan 2022 #2

I'd need to see... actual... facts. WarGamer Jan 2022 #4

You know, you really can research these things. I provided a link to the NPR study. hlthe2b Jan 2022 #7

YOu're relying on death rates which are irrelevant to the gross numbers WarGamer Jan 2022 #14

No. They are not, but you seem only to want to be combative towards those trying to answer you. hlthe2b Jan 2022 #16

And I see some people moving goalposts or changing the content of statements I make WarGamer Jan 2022 #21

What You Seem To Fail To Take Into Account, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2022 #50

For your statement to be true... WarGamer Jan 2022 #53

That, Sir, Is A Mischaracterizaton Of My Comments The Magistrate Jan 2022 #61

I'll just finish up my thoughts by saying... WarGamer Jan 2022 #64

Which Bears No Relation Whatever, Sir The Magistrate Jan 2022 #65

Sometimes graphics make the best argument WarGamer Jan 2022 #76

Game over, you lose. William769 Jan 2022 #78

Hmmmm WarGamer Jan 2022 #79

I fight & spar with people on the right. William769 Jan 2022 #80

So you come at me with "Game over, you lose" WarGamer Jan 2022 #81

I live in the reddest of red counties in S.W. Florida. William769 Jan 2022 #82

so no comment? WarGamer Jan 2022 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #51

This message was self-deleted by its author WarGamer Jan 2022 #56

Yes, it's puzzling an OP was made Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #39

The OP is factually correct. WarGamer Jan 2022 #44

You posed a question in which you already had an answer? Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #45

Maybe they looked it up AFTER posting? Beartracks Jan 2022 #48

It was nonsense and when called on it he immediately deleted it. former9thward Jan 2022 #38

And yet, NPR stands by their research that basically said the same thing... SKKY Jan 2022 #60

The CDC says Blacks and Hispanics die at twice the rate of whites due to Covid former9thward Jan 2022 #63

The demographics of those dying from Covid have shifted too, according to data from the CDC LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #73

or not? WarGamer Jan 2022 #77

Only population correlation studies showing people in counties that voted Trump more likely to die hlthe2b Jan 2022 #3

Rates are meaningless. WarGamer Jan 2022 #8

No, that's not true. Not when the correlation holds by county on a national level. hlthe2b Jan 2022 #13

I'm going to make it REAL simple for you. WarGamer Jan 2022 #17

No. But, your combativeness, rather than civil discourse is something I don't have to tolerate hlthe2b Jan 2022 #20

However, a logical conclusion of your examples would be that Democrats far outnumber karynnj Jan 2022 #57

What many fail to realize in the South madville Jan 2022 #29

I've been observing that all along. maxsolomon Jan 2022 #42

Yes there is political gain to be made from people dying. Just look back at how Trump encouraged the live love laugh Jan 2022 #6

So it's cool to be like a GOP Jackal making a party of the death of RBG? WarGamer Jan 2022 #10

You said no political gain is to be had. I provided an example of Republican efforts to capitalize live love laugh Jan 2022 #15

LMAO! ZZenith Jan 2022 #23

Not unlike in the 80s Mr.Bill Jan 2022 #36

There have been lots of articles looking at Covid Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #9

Rates are meaningless. WarGamer Jan 2022 #12

I'll try again, more people are dying of Covid Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #18

higher rates but not higher NUMBERS. WarGamer Jan 2022 #24

I'm done. You can goggle as well as I can. nt Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #26

Which is a meaningless statistic from a political angle madville Jan 2022 #47

Have fun arguing with statisticians. nt Phoenix61 Jan 2022 #67

Does it really matter? Ferrets are Cool Jan 2022 #19

It does not ornotna Jan 2022 #31

Most of the people in the hospital with Covid have been Haggard Celine Jan 2022 #22

Then it's unvaxx'd GOP'ers in Chicago, Milwaukee, Philadelphia and NYC? WarGamer Jan 2022 #25

It's possible. Haggard Celine Jan 2022 #32

Good reply, thanks! WarGamer Jan 2022 #34

Look at Florida madville Jan 2022 #33

Don't muddy the waters with actual facts... WarGamer Jan 2022 #35

Unvaxxed, yes, and the unvaxxed are MUCH more likely to be GOP. But it doesn't seem like Scrivener7 Jan 2022 #46

Boy, this post turned into a shit show even quicker than normal... SKKY Jan 2022 #27

Sure did. Kingofalldems Jan 2022 #43

Most people who die are older, poor, unvaccinated and overweight. cinematicdiversions Jan 2022 #28

The largest Democratic voting bloc in the Southeast madville Jan 2022 #40

City of Detroit votes 95% Democrat and it doesn't seem wealthy to me when I drive through it. MichMan Jan 2022 #49

As a group Blue states are richer than the red states. cinematicdiversions Jan 2022 #58

It may be safe to say that a majority of Trump voters live in the richer, blue states. Kaleva Jan 2022 #85

Okay, if you want to have a discussion on statistics, let's talk SHEER NUMBERS, bullwinkle428 Jan 2022 #41

The great majority of TFG voters in MI live in the urban and mostly urban counties Kaleva Jan 2022 #86

It's an extrapolation Sympthsical Jan 2022 #52

Extrapolation error: "We're better people!" ... said who? High fives ... where? live love laugh Jan 2022 #55

If I linked every instance Sympthsical Jan 2022 #59

"Rhetoric paints with a broad brush." -George Carlin live love laugh Jan 2022 #62

here is a study....... Takket Jan 2022 #54

Ohferkrissakes Stinky The Clown Jan 2022 #66

It is likely to be more GOP than Democrats given how much less likely the vaccinated are to die dsc Jan 2022 #68

Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #69

Monitoring Incidence of COVID-19 Cases, Hospitalizations, and Deaths, by Vaccination Status -- 13 U.S LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #70

COVID-19 Cases and Deaths by Vaccination Status LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #71

Journalist States The Obvious: COVID Is Killing Trump Supporters By The Hundreds Each Day By Dems La LetMyPeopleVote Jan 2022 #72

those numbers don't add up. WarGamer Jan 2022 #74

You keep posting a graph of "metro" v. "nonmetro", but that's not about voting muriel_volestrangler Jan 2022 #84

And you've made my point. WarGamer Jan 2022 #87

Now that's what I call "moving the goalposts" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2022 #88

One last question... if you'll answer it WarGamer Jan 2022 #89

self deleting because so many really want/need their opinions to be fact. WarGamer Jan 2022 #90