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jaxexpat

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31. That quote is usually referenced out of context, this, an example.
Tue Feb 1, 2022, 10:54 AM
Feb 2022

In the play's script, it was a conversation between two villains plotting to overthrow a government. The idea being that without lawyers, the "laws of the land" would be unrepresented, leaving the community vulnerable.

Lawyers are like anybody else. Some are good and others corrupt. The US has a peculiar attitude about lawyers in that so many of us think their purpose is to prevent one from being punished for wrongdoing or to facilitate fraud. The attorney/client privilege thing is, in my mind, a portal through which crime is, perhaps often, facilitated. Certainly, a debatable concept.

It all seems to come down to the definitions of truth, absolute truth and our trust in truth, always an entertaining subject and the center of our fascination with politics. How could people, informed by identical experience and witnessing identical phenomenon, draw totally different conclusions about what they'd witnessed? Surely, it's not just as simple as "believing your lying eyes". Right?

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This should be a bigger news story. [View all] fightforfreedom Feb 2022 OP
Also lawyers who are fighting back and investigating/prosecuting these a'holes hlthe2b Feb 2022 #1
I did not say all lawyers were behind the coup. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #5
Your eleven point (accurate, but one-sided) excoriation of attorneys without a single comment hlthe2b Feb 2022 #10
I didn't read that into the OP at all. What I read is the TFG's lawyers are not being held Maraya1969 Feb 2022 #17
This Ferrets are Cool Feb 2022 #20
This is how I read this also....... and it's fine the way it is. secondwind Feb 2022 #36
That. onecaliberal Feb 2022 #55
The other thing. orangecrush Feb 2022 #62
Absolutely! n/t Myrddin Feb 2022 #69
We don't always agree... but on this we do. NurseJackie Feb 2022 #50
Thank you! nt Trueblue Texan Feb 2022 #30
Some of us have noticed Sanity Claws Feb 2022 #2
Interesting thanks! Wow even disciplinary hearings take a long time Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2022 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2022 #66
Yeah, it was all about the lawyers. NanceGreggs Feb 2022 #3
Not even FailedCoupGuy KS Toronado Feb 2022 #16
No one else except maybe agingdem Feb 2022 #22
Lawyers created the constitutional republic of the United States of America. no_hypocrisy Feb 2022 #4
My son is a lawyer, but he has been trying to remodel his house for the past year so I don't dameatball Feb 2022 #7
Shakespeare said it: Wicked Blue Feb 2022 #8
Beat me to it! n/t intheflow Feb 2022 #29
That quote is usually referenced out of context, this, an example. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #31
This right here. JudyM Feb 2022 #44
"The attorney/client privilege thing" is subject to the crime/fraud exception. rsdsharp Feb 2022 #60
A wide grey-ish line. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2022 #67
Absolutely. Same thing with the debacle in my local Florida community. Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #9
I know I live in Florida too Oppaloopa Feb 2022 #54
Methinks someone snowybirdie Feb 2022 #11
Thank you! Dustlawyer Feb 2022 #18
I only have a problem with lawyers who try to overthrow our government. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #24
Right!! Aviation91 Feb 2022 #12
Welcome to DU, Aviation91! calimary Feb 2022 #70
Years back, law firms were allowed to employ lobbyists directly. empedocles Feb 2022 #75
Where the fuck is the American Bar Association? randr Feb 2022 #13
That is my question. At a minimum there should be disbarments JohnSJ Feb 2022 #15
That's up to the individual State Bars, not the ABA madville Feb 2022 #35
Where the fuck are the State Bars? randr Feb 2022 #53
If you're lucky, just inside the state line! dchill Feb 2022 #68
What would they do? madville Feb 2022 #33
Eh, yes and no Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #14
This is why I would like Maddow to do a show about the lawyers involved in the coup. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #26
You're on to something, maybe. They have reputations and careers to protect lostnfound Feb 2022 #57
FEDERALIST SOCIETY Captain Zero Feb 2022 #19
If Maddow does such a show, I hope every tie to the Federalist Society summer_in_TX Feb 2022 #63
You are so right - And then there were the millionaires funding it all. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #21
I reuse to blame ALL lawyers but I do condemn those who actively pursued breaking the law in Samrob Feb 2022 #23
I condemn anyone and everyone who actively pursues breaking the law in support of Trump. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #59
Every one of them must be disbarred malaise Feb 2022 #25
I never thought about it this way. The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #27
Since Trump's ascendance, this has been lawyer wars. His side is losing. ancianita Feb 2022 #28
"This lawyer war has always been Corporate v The People of the United States." Interesting. jaxexpat Feb 2022 #38
Yes, they have. Because citizens were misled into thinking THEY were the reason for the U.S. ancianita Feb 2022 #41
Thank you! Geechie Feb 2022 #51
... ancianita Feb 2022 #79
I've read your post several times and have this: jaxexpat Feb 2022 #76
Thanks for your thoughtful reply. I can raise the issue of our sources, but will leave it. ancianita Feb 2022 #78
Pro bono too? czarjak Feb 2022 #52
trump was the driving force behind the coup. spanone Feb 2022 #32
Lawyers, doctors, politicians, LEOs, largely police themselves. Lack of consequences is a problem. Midnight Writer Feb 2022 #34
Last I checked, these lawyers were not likely working on this pro bono Jarqui Feb 2022 #37
Ever watch "Breaking Bad"? WinstonSmith4740 Feb 2022 #39
Do you want a criminal lawyer or a "criminal" lawyer? lame54 Feb 2022 #43
Whoa UT_democrat Feb 2022 #40
From the party of NO frivolous law suits lame54 Feb 2022 #42
Shakespeare was right. BobTheSubgenius Feb 2022 #45
Yes, we need Faster responses to bad attorneys and doctors that break the law; flying_wahini Feb 2022 #46
True but.... garybeck Feb 2022 #47
Live by the Lawsuit, Die by the Lawsuit... SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #48
Lawyers are a problem in our society. PufPuf23 Feb 2022 #49
Not true. Your broad swipe at lawyers sounds like a sophomoric argument against Rule of Law. ancianita Feb 2022 #82
Two organizations directly responsible for these predations are the Federalist Society and Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #56
This deserves an OP of its own FakeNoose Feb 2022 #58
They quite literally define the terms. They are exactly the kinds of people and attitudes Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #64
Yes - Dark Money by Jane Mayer tells a lot of this story FakeNoose Feb 2022 #65
Wonder how many lawyers TFG has run through by now? calimary Feb 2022 #61
Excellent point FeelingBlue Feb 2022 #71
Aren't lawyers supposed to adhere to some code of ethics? Poiuyt Feb 2022 #72
Many of them should be disbarred. Liberty Belle Feb 2022 #73
Personally I prefer good old-fashioned banishment. If you cannot love it leave it alone, or you will Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #81
And guess who TFG will blame for his actions, duforsure Feb 2022 #74
Given 8958 views I doubt many have missed this topic, but crickets Feb 2022 #80
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