Hey Mourdock! If rape pregnancy is god's will, then

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21. I was speaking to logic. I appologize for taking such a far jump, but the logic is the same.

I am not discounting the topic. If you look back a few days of posts, I was one of the first people to post on Murdoch's comment (I am in Indiana, and I am a rape survivor. I couldn't help but comment.)

However, a few days later, the logic of having a Calvinistic view of the world (esp after Murdoch starting attempting to righteously simultaneously denounce the act of rape, while claiming the blessing of a preordained pregnancy resulting from that rape), I had to move out of the space of outrage from a rape survivor (in my healing which took ten years to even begin to address) and into the space of looking at the ridiculousness when one extends the belief of everything being preordained (which is the root behind Murdoch's statement, if we accept that he is being sincere, and which we can mock, if it is not than he is pandering to the rightwing taliborniagain which also can be mocked.)

My point, is that if everything is preordained, than Murdoch and his followers have to swallow the reality that Obama was elected as president in 2008. It is a logical parallelism, per the Calvinist belief system. It is a confrontational idea, not to my fellow Duers, but to those who oppose us and use Calvinist views to support extreme positions, but do not apply their views to events that they do not agree with. I was attempting to point out the flaw and hypocrisy of the view point. Which seemed in line with your point.

I apologize for appearing to hijack your thread. In the short time that I had to post (had to get up before 5 am), the logic made sense to me, but I didn't spend the time to explain the jump in logic. Apologies.