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Tommy Carcetti

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7. What if the sun refused to shine? What it the clouds refused to rain?

Reply to Uncle Joe (Original post)

Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:54 PM

Feb 2022

What if the wind refused to blow?
What if the seas refused to wave?
What if the world refused to turn?
What if the stars would hesitate?
What if, what is isn't true?
What are you going to do?
What if, what is isn't you?
Does that mean you've got to lose?
Digging for the feel of something new

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What if Ukraine were to state they would join NATO when Russia does? [View all] Uncle Joe Feb 2022 OP

NATO would never let Russia join, would they? MontanaMama Feb 2022 #1

Why not, so long as they meet NATO's minimum requirements? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #3

I think it's the most bizarre thing 48656c6c6f20 Feb 2022 #2

I believe it would serve three purposes, Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #4

I don't agree at all...it is appeasement at its worst. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #6

What would we be giving Putin? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #9

That he could control who was NATO and who wasn't. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #10

NATO makes the ultimate decision regardless, Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #11

No, it would be out of NATO's hands. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #25

No, NATO gets to decide whether any nation has met its' criteria and gets to join Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #32

This!👆 SheltieLover Feb 2022 #12

Thanks SheltieLover! Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #26

Yw! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #31

No, you don't cater to bullies it only makes them more agressive. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #5

The bullies don't win unless they change. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #8

Perhaps you have had limited personal experience with bullies...as a Navy brat who was put Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #18

The only thing I'm suggesting is that we allow the primary parties an option Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #21

I didn't say we should got to war...I indicated we used other means to dissuade Putin. Demsrule86 Feb 2022 #24

I agree with your first sentence and I believe this to be "other means" Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #33

What if the sun refused to shine? What it the clouds refused to rain? Tommy Carcetti Feb 2022 #7

Nobody wants Russia in NATO. SheltieLover Feb 2022 #13

What if Russia were a democracy? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #14

But it is not a democracy. SheltieLover Feb 2022 #15

And it can't join NATO at this time but what if it became one. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #16

Why should Ukraine have to state anything? GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #17

For one if Ukraine were to state such a thing, it would remove whatever Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #19

It won't remove anything, because this isn't about NATO. GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #30

Is Putin using NATO as propaganda to invade? Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #35

And, what happens when you give him this, and he threatens to invade again? GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #38

He pays for it, if Putin is so stupid as to invade Ukraine, it will be his and Russia's albatross. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #39

I think Ukraine should say, phylny Feb 2022 #20

That could be part of it as well. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #22

The problem is they cannot do that Hav Feb 2022 #27

Thanks! phylny Feb 2022 #29

Ukraine won't join NATO because it takes 100% of NATO members to vote yes, marie999 Feb 2022 #23

Russia also knows that as well, it's a vicious circle Hav Feb 2022 #28

I agree but I don't believe that alone Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #34

Right now, I don't think anyone knows what is going to happen including Putin. marie999 Feb 2022 #36

I agree with that as well. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #37