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msfiddlestix

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40. Ukrainian would beg to differ I've read.....

Wed Feb 23, 2022, 01:08 AM

Feb 2022

Ukrainian language preferred when it comes to the spelling and pronunciation :

Kyiv spelling (not Kiev) pronounced Keeve.

Its goal is to persuade English-language media and organizations to exclusively use Kyiv (derived from the Ukrainian language name) instead of Kiev (derived from the Russian language name) as the one true name of the Ukrainian capital. It is a part of the wider campaign "CorrectUA".

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Stop calling it "The Ukraine" [View all] ColinC Feb 2022 OP

Yes, thank you. themaguffin Feb 2022 #1

Lol, that is the least of my worries!!! Nt USALiberal Feb 2022 #2

Language. multigraincracker Feb 2022 #3

It's more than that in this case. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #7

In that case, we will send those folks to multigraincracker Feb 2022 #8

Super Interesting.. TY! Cha Feb 2022 #42

I think it's common with countries which start with "U" Ms. Toad Feb 2022 #49

Yep, 'The Ukraine' is a Russian talking point. TheBlackAdder Feb 2022 #4

It's a legacy name that stuck and change is hard when long entrenched. /nt bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #5

You are not boss of me SoonerPride Feb 2022 #6

+1000 USALiberal Feb 2022 #9

So, you choose to amplify Soviet propaganda? W_HAMILTON Feb 2022 #44

Imo, "the" is typically used as a prefix to a region. Oneironaut Feb 2022 #10

That is exactly why Putin calls it "the Ukraine." He considers it a REGION of Russia. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #11

"The Ukraine" is what it was called when it was a region in the USSR. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #14

I am kind of sick of the everyone and the media... TheRealNorth Feb 2022 #26

Ukraine is like Yugoslavia must be the new talking point now that Russia has invaded. mathematic Feb 2022 #27

And of course, no one says they're going to "The Netherlands." DFW Feb 2022 #37

Ukraine or the Ukraine... PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #12

Why does The Bronx? Polybius Feb 2022 #48

It's "The Bronx" unless being used as an adjective... PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #50

But why is it ever "The" Bronx? Polybius Feb 2022 #51

Because it was the Bronx river... which got shortened to just "The Bronx".. PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #52

Peiping, Peking, Beijing. Sneederbunk Feb 2022 #13

Thank you. And good luck. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #15

Been "Ukraine" since 1991 when Ukraine left the Soviet Union SharonClark Feb 2022 #16

But despite that long period of time, some here seem unwilling, or unable, to make the switch. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #18

"The Ukraine" is the Russian version of "Democrat Party"... Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #17

I gotta ask: Who the hell says "The" Ukraine? msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #19

Plenty of people here. I see it everyday, hence the OP. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #36

Apparently I've managed to miss these occurrences... msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #39

I dropped the "The" from "Ukraine" some time ago. Paladin Feb 2022 #20

So Which Is Correct? RobinA Feb 2022 #28

Supposedly: "Kee-ehev" is how Russians say it, "Keev" is the Ukrainian pronunciation. Paladin Feb 2022 #32

Oh thanks, that makes sense. When I was in college I took a class Raine Feb 2022 #43

I think "Keev" is the majority pronunciation these days. Tommy Carcetti Feb 2022 #35

Ukrainian would beg to differ I've read..... msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #40

Using the definite article sarisataka Feb 2022 #21

And a Ukraine I chatted with some years ago cachukis Feb 2022 #22

Seems we have a few defenders of deadnaming here.... Coventina Feb 2022 #23

Or people simply don't mind if they appear ignorant. BlackSkimmer Feb 2022 #31

Have another cup of coffee. Firestorm49 Feb 2022 #24

Coffee gives me indigestion ColinC Feb 2022 #30

I thought everyone had already gotten that memo. I'm not hearing it too often. NightWatcher Feb 2022 #25

Thank you Stinky The Clown Feb 2022 #29

Interestingly, Ukrainian and Russian The Revolution Feb 2022 #33

Quite correct! FINALLY! DFW Feb 2022 #38

Could blame Seinfeld The Revolution Feb 2022 #34

I read that on DU a long tme Cha Feb 2022 #41

It's a pre-independence thing. Patton French Feb 2022 #45

It always amazes me to see posts like this. A democratic country is on the verge Vinca Feb 2022 #46

Given everything you said, the least we can do is call them by the correct name. ColinC Feb 2022 #53

If that's all we can do, it's pretty damn pathetic. My point is to fret about what's important. Vinca Feb 2022 #54

The least we can do is just a start ColinC Feb 2022 #55

Why would you think anyone who refers to "the Ukraine" does not respect the country. Vinca Feb 2022 #56

Calling somebody by the wrong name is disrespectful ColinC Feb 2022 #57

Post removed Post removed Feb 2022 #58

I should say the same thing to you ColinC Feb 2022 #59

tRump called it The Ukraine yesterday while praising Putin's "sheer genius" Hortensis Feb 2022 #47