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In reply to the discussion: Democratic Socialists of America call on the US to withdraw from NATO [View all]
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)136. I think we need to make two more classification buckets
People on the right/left who support liberal democratic values, and then people on the right/left who favor illiberal authoritarianism.
In our respective buckets we may have vastly different views on many things, but we share certain core values and similar themes even if we have different approaches. With the illiberal group both the right and left share a lot of the same language and insult. If someone calls me a shit bag globalist liberal/neoliberal while saying something about "SleepyJoe", I can't say for sure if that's coming from the right or the left. If you haven't done this already, then open up two browser tabs. Point one to that splinter site of former members of DU and then another to freerepublic. Compare some of the talking points and language. Particularly anything that has to do with Russia or President Biden.
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Democratic Socialists of America call on the US to withdraw from NATO [View all]
RandySF
Feb 2022
OP
DSA demands immediate diplomacy and deescalation? To whom exactly are they addressing that demand?
lapucelle
Feb 2022
#51
they are just shooting off their mouths, almost no one takes them seriously, I certainly do not
Celerity
Feb 2022
#56
Alexandria Ocasio Cortez rallied with the Democratic Socialists of America two weeks ago
lapucelle
Feb 2022
#37
Rashida Tlaib gave the opening speech at the Democratic Socialists of America 2021 convention.
lapucelle
Feb 2022
#58
Would someone tell these dumbasses Russia hasn't been Socialist for about 30 years?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
Feb 2022
#6
DSA (Democrats Suck Always) apparently think only the U.S. is an imperialist oligarchy and bad.
betsuni
Feb 2022
#53
Representative Jamaal Bowman is a member of Democratic Socialists of America,
lapucelle
Feb 2022
#102
Respectfully IMHO Russia/USSR has never been close to "socialist" in its history
Cheezoholic
Feb 2022
#57
The DSA's call for the US to immediately withdraw from NATO is long-standing
lapucelle
Mar 2022
#168
It's a fantasy (thus, made up stuff) that the US withdrawing from NATO wouldn't be the end of Europe
herding cats
Feb 2022
#145
Why does anyone need to promise Putin anything...he is a greedy dictator who stole Russia's
Demsrule86
Feb 2022
#95
The DSA hates Democrats...they are an adversary and I do not consider them 'left'.
Demsrule86
Mar 2022
#163
:) Lenin would strongly disagree. USSR stands for Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
Hortensis
Mar 2022
#154
Because we have behaved badly and fell short of our ideals is not an excuse for Russia
DemocratSinceBirth
Feb 2022
#49
That'd give Putin the green light to invade further and further west in Europe.
greatauntoftriplets
Feb 2022
#15
Just goes to show you the "Democratic" in DSA is just a ruse to appeal reasonable.
mathematic
Feb 2022
#19
Defund the Police was a stupid slogan and cost Democrats a number of seats
LetMyPeopleVote
Feb 2022
#127
This is why at the Pro Ukraine rally today in Chicago they talked about the harm from the far right
mucifer
Feb 2022
#28
Also, "establishment" and "elites" (as in Hollywood (throwing dollar bills at Democrats at a George
betsuni
Feb 2022
#129
You will get to hear all about their ideas during the State of the Union rebuttal. NT
cinematicdiversions
Feb 2022
#79
It won't work. Our party is different...and we can't get the progressives elected in states we need
Demsrule86
Mar 2022
#160
In order to hold a majority, we have to get Progressives elected in red and purple states.
Demsrule86
Mar 2022
#162
Their statement says no economic brinksmanship should be taken either. So I guess just give up all
sciencescience
Feb 2022
#61
Sounds like the misguided leftists who initially supported Trump for president n/t
AntiFascist
Feb 2022
#70
Isn't that the party Sanders ran under and his supporters continually told us was
LizBeth
Feb 2022
#77
They can't tell the difference between parties: GWB/Obama/Trump/Biden administrations all want war.
betsuni
Feb 2022
#97
NATO is Trying to HELP Ukraine From Being Slaughtered by the Fucking Mad Man, Vlad Putin
Cha
Feb 2022
#106
"We condemn Stalin murdering 30 million people, but the real threat is America."
Azathoth
Feb 2022
#116
Get a grip: the Soviet Union collapsed was replaced by mafiosi before you kids were born
struggle4progress
Feb 2022
#119
Especially the sentence about neoliberal order and the ruling class trying to build a new order
betsuni
Feb 2022
#126
Let's just say the DSA's call to abandon #NATO is not exactly playing well with NY Democrats
LetMyPeopleVote
Feb 2022
#128
They should be really upset with Putin for driving more support for NATO
Sapient Donkey
Feb 2022
#134
I watched the German Chancellor speak in parliament yesterday, and his proposals were objected to by
OnDoutside
Feb 2022
#138
Timely. May this be the end of their anti-democracy if they're 'capitalist to their eyes' rhetoric.
herding cats
Feb 2022
#152