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Ocelot II

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14. What's happening in Ukraine has fuck-all to do with Cuba or any other

Sat Mar 12, 2022, 04:26 PM

Mar 2022

past American misadventures. As misbegotten as the Bay of Pigs incident was, the intent was never to annex and claim to own Cuba. There is no parallel.

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Russia's Position - I don't get it. But I don't like it when we do it either. [View all] qwlauren35 Mar 2022 OP

Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia are NATO members. Happy Hoosier Mar 2022 #1

Didn't do my research. qwlauren35 Mar 2022 #3

Yes the are! Bev54 Mar 2022 #5

Fixed it. qwlauren35 Mar 2022 #21

I think Putin is terrified of democracy and western influence in Russia... AntiFascist Mar 2022 #42

From Masha Gessen - interviewed by Ezra Klein bloom Mar 2022 #59

"They are just doing what we do." Bullshit. Ocelot II Mar 2022 #2

Cuba. qwlauren35 Mar 2022 #9

"The more understandable it becomes"-- Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #11

Ummm. qwlauren35 Mar 2022 #22

Nuclear arsenal alone is not what makes a superpower. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #26

Russia doesn't have the second most, it has the first most Polybius Mar 2022 #57

What's happening in Ukraine has fuck-all to do with Cuba or any other Ocelot II Mar 2022 #14

Not sure why... qwlauren35 Mar 2022 #25

Of course the US shouldn't do either but that must not give Russia OnDoutside Mar 2022 #18

The US didn't annex Vietnam, it just set up a puppet government in South Vietnam marie999 Mar 2022 #55

The US paid a huge price, in blood, money, and reputation, for our wars Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #4

Agree totally. Thanks for the distinction here between the way we would all like to live marked50 Mar 2022 #51

Nope. The NATO Baltic states and Poland border Russia and have for decades Arazi Mar 2022 #6

Done. qwlauren35 Mar 2022 #10

+1, I did the same thing its anchor bias where humans tend to take what they hear FIRST ... uponit7771 Mar 2022 #13

He can't put the USSR back together but IMO he's... brush Mar 2022 #35

Ukraine is a buffer... lame54 Mar 2022 #7

Hmmm... qwlauren35 Mar 2022 #12

Putin is getting the band back together Arazi Mar 2022 #16

It will always be... lame54 Mar 2022 #19

No, Ukraine would still be a buffer. marie999 Mar 2022 #53

Great post malaise Mar 2022 #8

I don't think so...Russia invaded Ukraine in order to conquer them ...they had done nothing to Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #15

Maybe one day you'll take a good look at what your Manifest Destiny has meant malaise Mar 2022 #23

That doesn't excuse what Russia's doing. Elessar Zappa Mar 2022 #28

I haven't seen anyone saying that malaise Mar 2022 #29

It seems to me that is 'the old both sides do it'. It is not right to equate this country to Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #56

No one has even hinted that it excuses what Russia is doing. nt. Mariana Mar 2022 #52

Then what's the point of bringing it up? Elessar Zappa Mar 2022 #58

Unfortunately, People like Putin think it is relevant n/t bloom Mar 2022 #60

That has nothing to do with this. Demsrule86 Mar 2022 #54

Wanted to share this with you. qwlauren35 Mar 2022 #46

Israel - Russian border? malaise Mar 2022 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Mar 2022 #48

Good grief. Someone plugged in the whataboutism-o-mat machine again. PSPS Mar 2022 #17

Ukraine Vs Iraq EX500rider Mar 2022 #20

Re Iraq - US illegally invading a country malaise Mar 2022 #24

Get back to me when elected President Volodymyr Zelensky uses poison gas on his OWN people EX500rider Mar 2022 #27

You mean like the Atomic Bomb in Japan malaise Mar 2022 #30

Yeah show me where we used poison gas against our OWN people EX500rider Mar 2022 #32

You didn't have to - you exterminated indigenous people malaise Mar 2022 #34

When your examples are 100+ years old you are grasping at straws IMO EX500rider Mar 2022 #36

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Mar 2022 #39

Tell that to the close to a million dead Iraqis from malaise Mar 2022 #40

Not sure how it is my illegal invasion and occupation. EX500rider Mar 2022 #50

But don't forget Rumsfeld sold him the poison gas (and so much other lethal aid besides) peppertree Mar 2022 #38

Actually the Germans sold them the pesticide factories that they converted. EX500rider Mar 2022 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author malaise Mar 2022 #31

Islam is the problem in many of those places JI7 Mar 2022 #33

The invasion is not about NATO MoonlitKnight Mar 2022 #37

It's not that complicated really though, BootinUp Mar 2022 #41

One of Pootler's biggest distortions is to present NATO as if it is The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2022 #43

Excellent post. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #45

Self righteous vanity bs JI7 Mar 2022 #44

"But what about what Rome did to Carthage?!" lol EX500rider Mar 2022 #61

Nope. Just nope. Tommy Carcetti Mar 2022 #62