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localroger

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16. It would honestly be a big surprise to find China supporting Russia
Mon Mar 14, 2022, 10:40 PM
Mar 2022

They have been bitter enemies for literally over a millennium, and China is probably eyeing up Siberia with a long-term eye to annexing as much of it as possible as being their rightful legacy. Particularly with climage change making the weather warmer there and more violent in more southerly climes.

Also, China does not need Russia's nukes. They have nukes of their own, an delivery systems as good as Russia's. They didn't build as many of them as Russia or particularly the US did, but they did build enough to thoroughly deter anyone else from using nukes on them, which is the whole operative theory behind MAD. They didn't feel the need to bankrupt themselves building overkill levels when it's quite clear no sane enemy would risk being hit by even a few.

If they do form an alliance I would expect it to be as honest and trustworthy as Stalin's pact with Hitler, which is to say the Russians would need to really watch their backs. Because they are now overextended and the Chinese aren't. The Chinese might want to present what looks like a strong front against NATO and the US, but they will abandon it in a microsecond if they can find better advantage elsewhere.

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This Makes No Sense What So Ever. ruet Mar 2022 #1
Oh crap. Was gonna post, save the world/China. UTUSN Mar 2022 #2
They are not making a mistake from their perspective. former9thward Mar 2022 #3
Nonsense...their trade with the West is over $1 trillion annually BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #6
Unlike the U.S. Chinese leadership looks into the future. former9thward Mar 2022 #10
That will be of enormous comfort to the Chinese people when their economy takes a massive hit BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #14
The U.S. won't do that. former9thward Mar 2022 #33
They're hesitant. So they think it might be a mistake. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #9
They are not hesitant. former9thward Mar 2022 #12
We don't know if, or to what extent, they will participate in Russia's disaster. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #13
They look like fools BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #15
Yes. It's like agreeing to drive the getaway car for a quick bank robbery, and then Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #18
Would be a huge mistake in my opinion standingtall Mar 2022 #31
Nigeria is not participating in the Russian sanctions. former9thward Mar 2022 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author standingtall Mar 2022 #40
What will be China's stated rationale for providing the means to kill Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #4
Superpower? ruet Mar 2022 #5
They want to be seen as one. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #7
Got'cha. -NT- ruet Mar 2022 #11
They're pushing the biolabs disinformation on Chinese state tv Nevilledog Mar 2022 #17
Probably why Russia went to the UN with it--gave China a cover story. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #20
QAnon and RWNJs are pushing this because it dovetails with a favorite conspiracy theory Nevilledog Mar 2022 #22
Yes, I see that on RW blogs. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #23
+1, ... and it looks like it started there not from Russia uponit7771 Mar 2022 #24
Russia has been pushing biolabs conspiracies for years. Nevilledog Mar 2022 #32
So just about all the factories are in China now that make all of our crap. mucifer Mar 2022 #8
Not your grandfather's factories JCMach1 Mar 2022 #36
It would honestly be a big surprise to find China supporting Russia localroger Mar 2022 #16
+1, I'm thinking Xi was like .. yeah, go ahead and attack it'll be quick ... laughing at Putrid in uponit7771 Mar 2022 #26
Siberia is definitely on the menu BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #27
If I were Xi Id be mulling over invading Russia about now Arazi Mar 2022 #19
Too nuke-y. Wingus Dingus Mar 2022 #21
I dunno, they both have them Arazi Mar 2022 #25
If China would just sit back and let Russia implode, they would get Siberia by default. roamer65 Mar 2022 #28
That might be a reason for them to enter a pretend alliance localroger Mar 2022 #29
+1000 roamer65 Mar 2022 #30
Come Now. ruet Mar 2022 #35
US and Russia both have far more nukes than we ever needed localroger Mar 2022 #37
Quick Question. ruet Mar 2022 #38
That goes to my last paragraph localroger Mar 2022 #39
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